[Tagging] tags for a live stock sale yard
bkil.hu+Aq at gmail.com
Mon Apr 15 20:50:54 UTC 2019
Warin did not mention how they are purchased, i.e., whether an auction
is being held, or if only market haggling is being done. Assuming the
latter, what has been said is still consistent with
amenity=marketplace + marketplace=livestock.
This sounds like a different feature:
"(US) An enclosed yard, with pens, sheds etc. or stables, where
livestock is kept temporarily before being slaughtered, treated, sold,
or shipped etc."
Compared to marketplaces, I think stockyards would be interesting to a
lot less map users (probably only to contracted partners who regularly
bring in livestock).
I'm still looking for the answer regarding the ratio of auction vs.
haggling in USA livestock markets/auctions, so we can come up with
tags suiting their use cases as well.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:16 AM Tony Shield <tony.shield999 at gmail.com> wrote:
> You seem to be describing a stockyard that is associated with an
> auction. Could these be relevant starters for tags?
> On 15/04/2019 00:23, Warin wrote:
> > In Australia commercial livestock (sheep, cattle) are sold through
> > these livestock markets.
> > They may be transported for several days to get to the market, rested
> > there before sale to recover from their trip.
> > As such the market can be large with feeding etc.
> > Once sold they are then transported again, possibly overseas.
> > https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/10839250-3x2-large.jpg?v=2
> > https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/10839176-3x2-large.jpg?v=2
> > I do not see them as 'shops'... in the typical physical sense.
> > On 14/04/19 17:51, bkil wrote:
> >> In Hungary, market auctions do not exist. Instead you go to the
> >> livestock market, purchase some chicks, then go to the producers'
> >> market to grab some grain for them. Many markets are open to a little
> >> haggling, though.
> >> We de have online auctions and also some official ones related to
> >> liquidation or taxation for example, but vehicles and machinery are
> >> much more common to pop up on these than livestock, and they are not a
> >> permanent feature anyway.
> >> What ratio of livestock purchases are executed through auctions in the
> >> USA? If not a majority, I'd recommend we stay with amenity=marketplace
> >> and introduce a new tag for auction=yes (or specify the kind of
> >> auction here). This is also assuming that livestock markets commonly
> >> have the word "market" in their name. Can you always take home the
> >> livestock you have purchased, or are these organized at distant
> >> auction houses, having the goods transported later on to the winner?
> >> Maybe we need to come up with a tag for this as well (delivery=only?).
> >> If livestock auctions are the norm there, we may introduce a new tag
> >> for this, though shop=auction + auction=livestock isn't that far off
> >> in this case. What else is commonly auctioned there? Is it common for
> >> agricultural supplies as well, like pesticide, fertilizer, seed, tools
> >> or machinery?
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auction#Common_uses
> >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 5:35 AM Joseph Eisenberg
> >> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> I saw that proposal, but it seems to be discussing auction houses that
> >>> sell goods from estates, or collectibles, rather than a commodity
> >>> auction.
> >>> For a livestock auction, I would suggest using amenity=auction or
> >>> amenity=auction_house with auction=livestock.
> >>> But there do seem to be some marketplaces where livestock is sold via
> >>> general negotiation in Asia, eg. here in Indonesia we had a
> >>> marketplace called "Pasar Sapi" or "Cattle Market" which mainly sold
> >>> fruits and vegetables, but occasionally had cattle or goats for sale.
> >>> And the marketplace in my town here in New Guinea always has pigs and
> >>> chickens for sale (live), price negotiable but not auctioned.
> >>> If there are cases like this, amenity=marketplace +
> >>> marketplace=livestock could work (assuming it is primarily a livestock
> >>> market).
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