[Tagging] Subtag for place=locality?

Dave Swarthout daveswarthout at gmail.com
Tue Apr 16 01:51:39 UTC 2019


> Can you give an example of one of these groups of named islands? If they
are close together and divided from other islands in the area, I would use
“archipelago”.

Here's a small group of only two islands that is definitely not an
archipelago, (as I understand that term, i.e., a "chain" of islands), and
have one name to describe both islands, the Leland Islands:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/20287799#map=14/58.6562/-135.9916

In this case, the original mapper didn't tag them as a multipolygon but
applied the place=island tag to the group as a node. I fact, he didn't even
bother to redraw the horrible PGS coastline to separate them into
individual islands.

Alaska has hundreds of these island groups.

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:12 PM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 15/04/19 22:04, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> > That's an interesting example. Was the wheel put there as a landmark
> > or route marker, or just for fun?
>
> I don't know. I would assume as a landmark, to form a meeting place or a
> simple navigational aid. I don't even know if the present wheel is the
> original one.
>
> >
> > If the tag "place=locality" didn't exist, how would you tag this?
>
> I'd ask here, that is one of the things this group is good for.
>
> >
> > On 4/15/19, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> As an example of a locality that has never had a population
> >>
> >> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/117041320
> >>
> >> /The Wheel/ (a car wheel - no tyre) was originally mounted on a tree by
> >> bushwalkers to mark the hub of the Blue Labyrinth's ridges.
> >>
> >> No one has ever lived there. Plenty of people go past, and it still a
> >> navigational feature.
> >>
> >> Fairly certain other localities have their stories to tell too.
> >>
> >>
> >> n 15/04/19 17:23, Warin wrote:
> >>>  From the original start of place=locality
> >>>
> >>> /All current place tags are for either populated areas, or for larger
> >>> areas of County sized or bigger. The place=locality tag is useful for
> >>> places that have a specific name, but do not necessarily have any
> >>> geographic feature or population centre that could be used to attach a
> >>> name tag to. /
> >>>
> >>> That to me suggest that places that locality can be a place that had
> >>> population, or places that did not have a population.
> >>>
> >>> But, I agree, that places that had a population would be better tagged
> >>> disused:/abandonded: place=hamlet/town/village/city
> >>>
> >>> I think that can go on the wiki for locality... under 'when not to
> >>> use' with the others there.
> >>> /
> >>> /
> >>> On 15/04/19 17:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> sent from a phone
> >>>>
> >>>> On 15. Apr 2019, at 03:55, Joseph Eisenberg
> >>>> <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> The most important value would be one for a locality that is a former
> >>>>> populated place but no longer has a population.
> >>>>
> >>>> I’ve always understood the population part of the locality tag
> >>>> definition as a way of saying the place name does not relate to a
> >>>> settlement or dwelling (but it doesn’t necessarily mean nobody is
> >>>> living around there, it means this name is not for an inhabited
> >>>> place). A generic tag for a place name/ toponym, to be used where no
> >>>> specific tag has yet been developed.
> >>>> (e.g. we have specific tags for toponyms that refer to mountain
> >>>> peaks, wetlands, lakes, islands, deserts, caves, settlements, etc. so
> >>>> we don’t use locality for them)
> >>>>
> >>>> I’m not sure I’d support locality subtags, for lots of things a main
> >>>> tag might be more fitting with the established tagging system, but it
> >>>> depends on the actually proposed values.
> >>>>
> >>>> For ghost towns (settlements) I’ve found a lot tagged as
> >>>> abandoned:place=hamlet/village/town
> >>>>
> >>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/abandoned:place#values
> >>>>
> >>>> which seems inline with the rest of our tagging and is by far more
> >>>> frequent than any “ghost” variations.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers, Martin
> >>>>
> >>>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tagging mailing list
> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
>


-- 
Dave Swarthout
Homer, Alaska
Chiang Mai, Thailand
Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20190415/3e2a0980/attachment.html>


More information about the Tagging mailing list