[Tagging] Roles of route members (was: Merging tagging scheme on wiki pages of Hiking, ...)

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Tue Aug 20 06:57:15 UTC 2019

And that is a reason why routes can be nested, so you can use the sections as routes of their own. I would still like to know how else to feed an OSM-route to a garmin or app if not by converting it to gpx so it can reroute along the points in the track to produce exactly the original route.

Mvg Peter Elderson

> Op 20 aug. 2019 om 08:13 heeft Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> The longest local route to me that I have worked on is over 5,000 km long. I am certain that would not fit on my GPS as a route using this method.
> To reduce the gpx file it would be better to use the nodes where the route changes from one way to another or where the way ends/starts. This would leave the GPS to figure out that the internal map has a way between those points and can use it That should be less way points. But even then on my 5,000 km route it would be far too big for my old GPS as one route. That is ok .. I'd separate it into bits. 
>> On 20/08/19 15:59, Peter Elderson wrote:
>> That is what I do, and what an growing number of hiking people do: turn a route into a gpx, load the gpx into an app or device, which then routes along the gpx using all the nodes as waypoints. It works, and it recreates the exact route if the map is exctly the same as the original. And if the gpx is linear and without ordering problems. 
>> And its crazy. Because the route is there to begin with, ready in OSM. 
>> I still don't know how else to feed a pre-existing route to a garmin. If it doesn't take the route from the map, and it doesn't take a gpx, how does the device know where to go?
>> Vr gr Peter Elderson
>> Op di 20 aug. 2019 om 05:49 schreef Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com>:
>>> On 18/08/19 00:07, Peter Elderson wrote:
>>> > In this case, I do NOT want to go from A to B. I want to do the hike, 
>>> > that is the route, exactly as it is specified OSM. Those ways, in the 
>>> > exact order. I want my smartphone or garmin to guide me exactly along 
>>> > those ways, which were carefully picked when the route was entered 
>>> > into OSM.
>>> >
>>> > If that can't be done directly, I want to get an export that I can 
>>> > feed to my device or app, so it can recreate the route exactly, 
>>> > without adding, weighing, guessing or rerouting anything.
>>> >
>>> > When I'm planning a hike, I want the software to start with the exact 
>>> > OSM route, not a rerouted version.
>>> It may be possible...
>>> Each node alone the OSM route would be a waypoint for your Garmin device 
>>> as a route. There will be lots of waypoints!
>>> You would need a OSM map on the Garmin device.
>>> That may work... I am not certain if voice prompts would work, but the 
>>> gpx file will be large, there may be too many waypoints for you device 
>>> to handle.
>>> The device will still be routing .. but between the nodes of the way 
>>> there will be no difference between the OSM map and the route.
>>> Because of the large number of waypoints I'd think most people will not 
>>> do this. If you chose to do it Peter, good luck.
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