[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (contact:phone)

Andy Townsend ajt1047 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 4 13:18:13 UTC 2019


On 04/12/2019 12:01, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> Sören Reinecke wrote:
>> This proposal tends to make Key:contact:phone the official tag
>> for tagging phone numbers and to deprecate Key:phone which is
>> not fitting in the idea of grouping keys. Anyway it's bad to have
>> two keys for the exact same purpose in use.
> Please just kill me now.
>
Ahem.

Perhaps, Sören, it would help if you explained in a bit more detail why 
you think it's a good idea to have yet another vote on this? 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Discussions/tagging/contact:phone_or_phone 
is largely content-free, apart from the "how we format phone numbers" 
part (which is I believe largely agreed and common to both).

If you could explain why it is "bad to have two keys for the exact same 
purpose in use" in that proposal it would stand much more chance of not 
being rejected or (more likely) just ignored.

Historically OpenStreetMap, with free-form tagging, has succeeded where 
other more codified approaches have failed.  That isn't unique - think 
Wikipedia vs Nupedia.  Historically also OSM has tried to make life easy 
for mappers rather than data consumers - the idea being that 1000 mapped 
items (some with tags that may need a bit of correction or merging 
later) is better than 100 perfectly tagged ones with 900 unmapped.

It'd also be good to see an explanation of why it's worth the time even 
going through this again - haven't we all got better things to do?

Surely we know from previous discussions that

  * some people prefer using "phone" as a key,
  * some people prefer "contact:phone"
  * in the absence of other information they mean exactly the same thing
  * it's trivial for renderers and other data consumers to treat them
    exactly the same

Best Regards,

Andy



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