[Tagging] Tagging Digest, Vol 113, Issue 52 Co-ordinate sets vs. background informations = ODbL vs. CC

Sergio Manzi smz at smz.it
Thu Feb 14 13:46:25 UTC 2019


On a mailing list, in a community, I can't imagine anything more rude and divisive than *publicly* telling someone that he can go away if he don't like things the way you (/and others, even the majority indeed/) like it, and that you are considering to block him/her *just for the opinions she/she express* (/mind you, not for the way he/she express it.../).


On 2019-02-14 14:02, Paul Allen wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 12:34, Sergio Manzi <smz at smz.it <mailto:smz at smz.it>> wrote:
>
>     I strongly dissent with the tone of your mail.
>
> That is your right.  Even if you are strongly dissenting about somebody expressing strong
> dissent, it is your right.
>
>     Everybody, not only you and the most vocifeferous ones, have the right to express their opinion.
>
>
> Indeed.  I strongly support everyone's right to express their opinion.  As far as I am concerned,
> you can say whatever you want.  But you cannot force me, or anyone else, to listen.  Interacting
> with others in a way that stops them listening to you is not an effective way of getting your point
> across.  YMMV.
>
>     You can dissent, but the tone of your mail is definitely rude and divisive.
>
> Rude???  I refrained from giving my opinion of the guy (which is something most people
> would consider to be extremely negative) and merely told him what options were
> available to him since he is dissatisfied with the current situation.  The OSM community
> has given a great deal of thought to copyright issues to arrive at their position and I don't
> see much chance of them moving to his position, a position they explicitly state is (in
> their opinion) not tenable.
>
> His only feasible options are to live with what we have, stop mapping, set up a competing project,
> or continue to rant incomprehensibly here.  Should he continue to rant here then he's likely to
> end up in killfiles.  Telling him that isn't rude, it's advising him that he is not doing himself any
> favours with his current behaviour.
>
>     Think twice.
>
> I thought three times before I posted.  You would certainly have thought the second version of my
> post to be extremely rude.  And you would have had a conniption fit over the first version.  What I
> actually posted refrained from rebuking him and instead offered a stark, unadorned explanation
> of the options open to him.
>
> -- 
> Paul
>
>
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