[Tagging] StreetComplete 10 / foot=yes on residential

[Tobias Wrede]

Am 14.02.2019 um 19:51 schrieb Tobias Zwick:
> This is, by the way, a bit of a different topic now, because the thread
> was originally about tagging foot=yes on residential, not whether
> foot=yes/no is limited to a *legal* access restriction. Anyway:
>
> I doubt access restrictions are used that way in reality.

In my experience they are mostly. Granted, the legal interpretation 
might be stretched a bit sometimes.

> Same with Germany/UK. Some posters mentioned, that on any road without a
> sidewalk and without an explicit access restriction for pedestrians,
> pedestrians are allowed. Okay, that is new to me, but if this is true,
> then this is also a case where the law (massively) diverges from the
> actual reality on the ground. I am sure the police would find something
> else to charge you with when you take a walk on for example this busy
> intersection https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/188015324 , like,
> hindrance of traffic. Note that the road authority also did not bother
> to put any signs there [*]
> (Google Streetview:
> https://www.google.de/maps/@53.5483485,10.0055799,3a,73y,176.82h,81.92t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBSZx5A6MNVRKd0qN6MIanQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
> )
>
> Incidentally, that section is also tagged with foot=no.

Well, IANAL but I guess this whole intersection gordian knot could be 
interpreted as being one street and pedestrians are still rquired by 
German law to use the circumferencing footways and not the several 
carriageways.

> I have no statistics up my sleeve, but I firmly believe that this is no
> exception, because, common sense.

I'm with you here regarding the tunnels. Around here I have seen "no 
pedestrians" signs at tunnel entrances, there are non around your 
example street. So while legally it might be ok to walk there I would 
also tend to foot=no them.


> [*] And exactly these situations were the ones I had in mind when
> designing the discussed quest for StreetComplete, by the way.

Still, they are the very minority of situations where a residential (or 
any other road) has no sidewalk. In my view the negative impact of the 
many, many foot=yes set by the quest outweighs the benefit of finding 
the few exceptions to the rule. As suggested somewhere else maybe you 
should try to limit the quest to bridges, tunnels or where there is 
already a bicycle=no.