[Tagging] motorcycle tagging

Dave Swarthout daveswarthout at gmail.com
Sun Jan 6 01:00:45 UTC 2019

I have been contacted at least twice by user:ti-lo about changing the
tagging of several motorcycle shops I've added over the years. He is a bit
of an evangelist for the new scheme yet has always been polite while asking
to change my tags. Recently, I checked to see if the tags were documented
in the Wiki and learned that the "new tagging" scheme aligned with his
recommendations. I like the scheme and have always said, sure, go ahead
never thinking that the Wiki had been modified by him (as user:Rtfm) to
push the scheme he favors.

I don't think it's good policy to discourage mappers from coming up with a
new tagging scheme. However, such wholesale changes should be discussed
fully here and perhaps elsewhere but, as someone else pointed out, trying
to get anything approved by the tagging list is a long struggle that often
ends in stalemate. I have often been frustrated by the endless
deliberations that occur on this list when even a relatively small change
in tagging has been suggested.

Consequently, my opinion about what to do is mixed. Certainly, a full
discussion is warranted before going ahead.


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 5:48 AM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 06/01/19 06:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >
> > sent from a phone
> >
> >> On 5. Jan 2019, at 08:25, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not mandatory in OSM ... "Any tags you like".
> >
> > you can use any tags you like in your mapping, but that doesn’t imply
> “changing” tags. It is one thing adding motorcycle:* tags, and another
> removing “old style” tags.
> > Or changing the value of a “standard key” from something well known to
> something “new” (not established) (provided the well known value applies
> according to common understanding).
> Thanks for reading the words and not adding to there meaning :)
> I too do not encourage changing current tags to some other tag. Only with
> depreciated tags would I encourage there replacement with more current tag
> use.
> >
> > And it doesn’t imply changing the tagging recommendations in the wiki
> unilaterally. You can do this on your user page, but not in the common
> space.
> >
> > I agree with Allan’s proposition and ask him to set up a proposal.
> Rather than 'set up a proposal' I would ask the contributor (and that is
> not Allen) to discuss the matter here.
> Possible problems are that the contributor does not have good English
> skills and maybe reactant to enter into that problem area combined with the
> problem of tagging.
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Dave Swarthout
Homer, Alaska
Chiang Mai, Thailand
Travel Blog at http://dswarthout.blogspot.com
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