[Tagging] Creating shop=caravan

Dave Swarthout daveswarthout at gmail.com
Mon Jan 14 12:59:09 UTC 2019

Round and round we go and ne'er the twain shall meet.

Mobile home simply will not work in this use case. Nobody camps or travels
from place to place in a mobile home.

On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 7:01 PM Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 22:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Wow, so much for me naively thinking that caravan was a universal word!
>> Should know better by now :-)
> Yeah, where are the camels?  It's not a proper caravan without camels.
> Have a question about searching though, which was raised previously. You
>> have a place that deals in both (self-propelled) "motorhomes" & also
>> (towed) "caravans", & it's tagged as a shop=caravan, with caravan=yes &
>> also motorhome=yes (ignoring the exact wording for the moment).
> If you search for motorhome, will it be found because the details include
>> motorhome=yes, or would you have to search for caravan, because it's tagged
>> as a shop=caravan? (Sorry, I know that's badly worded but can't think of a
>> better way of putting it)
> Having thought about it some more, and using shop=mobile_home as the main
> tag (I know you
> don't like it, but I do), then
> mobile_home:sells=static_caravan;touring_caravan;motor_home.  Yes,
> I just mixed UK and US terms there, but it was about the best I could come
> up with on a first
> attempt (no doubt we will spend weeks arguing over those).  Maybe we ought
> to have
> "caravan" and "static_caravan."
> So mobile_home appears to cover it.
> Not really, sorry
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home: "A *mobile home* (also
> *trailer*, *trailer home*, *house trailer*, *static caravan*, *residential
> caravan*) is a prefabricated
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefabrication>structure, built in a
> factory on a permanently attached chassis before being transported to site
> (either by being towed or on a trailer). Used as permanent homes
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home>, or for holiday or temporary
> accommodation, they are left often permanently or semi-permanently in one
> place"
> Nothing in that excludes touring caravans.  "Used as permanent homes *or*
> for holiday
> or temporary accommodation."  "The are left *often* permanently [,..] in
> one place."  It may imply
> that the term most commonly refers to static caravans but doesn't
> explicitly exclude RVs,
> touring caravans, etc.
> Also, from the second paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorhome
> "Motorhomes" are part of the much larger associated group of *mobile
> homes* which includes
> *caravans, *also known as tourers, and static caravans.
> Not that anyone should ever take Wikipedia as gospel for anything, but
> that accords well with
> (British) English definitions of "mobile" and "home."  You can live in it
> (home) and you can
> move it around (mobile).  "Motor home" excludes towed caravans and static
> caravans (no motor) and
> really only includes RVs and similar self-propelled vehicles.
> --
> Paul
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Dave Swarthout
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Chiang Mai, Thailand
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