[Tagging] Mapping curb (kerb) lines as the home of curb, parking, etc information
61sundowner at gmail.com
Sun Mar 3 23:05:06 UTC 2019
On 04/03/19 06:12, Nick Bolten wrote:
> A recent post on the Mapillary blog
> reminded me of my long-running wish to have more curb lines mapped, so
> I wanted to get a discussion started to see what people think of
> mapping curbs as ways.
> The short version is this: if we put kerb=* on a line and call it its
> own feature, what's the best tagging schema to use and what kind of
> additional information is appropriate? Personally, I'd like to use
> (and recommend) the existing kerb=* tags around blocks and potentially
> add parking information.
> Potential mapping and data use cases:
> - Public parking data: curbs are already marked with parking /
> stopping information, and when motor vehicles stop at a curb they are
> meant to follow the local regulations regarding access. Curbs seem
> like a natural place to store this information: you can split the way
> whenever the parking situation differs or where there are dedicated
> parking slots. It is attractive to associate streets with parking
> information, but if one were to split street ways whenever parking
> information changed, every city block would become an
> incomprehensible, split-up mess.
> - Streets as areas: there are a few schemas out there about mapping
> streets and related features as areas, primarily for rendering
> purposes. Mapping the curb is fully compatible with, and part of,
> these proposals, and could provide a means of building up to fully
> mapping contiguous areas.
> - Pedestrian crossings. I would be very excited to map out kerb=* ways
> around every block I see, because it makes QA (and even safe,
> semi-automated edits) for pedestrian accessibility so easy. All a
> validator has to do is check that a highway=footway crosses a kerb=*
> way and lacks its own kerb=* node. This is similar to the validators
> already used in JOSM and iD that check for things like a footway or
> street intersecting a building, reminding users to use covered=* or
> - Pedestrian islands. These are often just an assembly of raised curbs
> intended to protect pedestrians that are doing a multi-part crossing
> of a street or streets.
> - Opportunity to merge with + simplify micromapped stairs: what are
> stairs but a series of carefully-raised "curbs"? I've seen various
> proposals regarding how one might map large, beautiful, public
> stairways. This is a whole can of worms, but the information in
> describing a physical curb is essentially the same as describing any
> 'stuff on the right is higher than stuff on the left' interface.
Err ... no.
Curbs and guttering are road edges. Detail them as part of the road/foot
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