[Tagging] Status of oneway=cw oneway=ccw

s8evq s8evq at runbox.com
Tue Mar 12 23:31:00 UTC 2019


There seems to be some confusion from my original email as to why even have clockwise/counterclockwise on a hiking route _relation_. The reason is simple: When you have a roundtrip signposted hiking route, you can't always do the hike in both directions. The signs are sometimes positioned so they are only visible when you do the hike in one specific direction. If you would do the hiking route in the other direction, you wouldn't see most of the signs.

In Belgium, we have many hundreds of these walking routes mapped:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Local_Walking_Routes_Flanders
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Local_Walking_Routes_Wallonie
most of these are roundtrip, and a lot with one specific direction only.



My question remains: how do you deal with this, and what about the statement currently in the wiki about this?



On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 10:50:37 -0700, Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com> wrote:

> direction=clockwise/anticlockwise makes sense for a node (like a
> miniroundabout), not for a way
> 
> on a way, the common usage is "oneway=yes" and make sure the way (which is
> by nature directional) is pointing the right direction.
> 
> It doesn't make much sense for a hiking route to use "clockwise" (why the
> "cw" abbreviation???) or "anticlockwise" ("ccw" is presumably an
> abbreviation for the American English word "counterclockwise"). Because
> those terms only make sense if the route is a closed loop that doesn't
> self-intersect, have branches, or anything complicated.
> 
> So "oneway=yes" solves all these cases quite simply. Avoid "oneway=-1" by
> the way, just use "oneway=yes" and reverse the direction of the way if it's
> wrong.
> 
> My two cents (from extensive work on bus routes, not hiking routes).
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 4:32 AM s8evq <s8evq at runbox.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have a question concerning the correct way to add the direction of
> > travel to roundtrip route=hiking|foot|bicycle relations.
> >
> >
> > I saw in the route=hiking wiki page that the usage of oneway=cw and
> > oneway=ccw has been added in 2017, with the word "proposal: " in front.
> >
> >
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:route%3Dhiking&diff=prev&oldid=1453761
> >
> > Since then, this tag has not been used that much:
> > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/oneway=cw (4 times)
> > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/oneway=ccw (6 times)
> >
> >
> > I see there is also the tag "direction=" with a lot more usage. On
> > mini-roundabouts (as documented in the wiki
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:direction#Clockwise_and_anticlockwise),
> > but sometimes even on route=foot, route=hiking and route=bicycle (not
> > documented in the wiki)
> >
> > Could somebody clear this up, for a novice user like me? How to correctly
> > add the direction of travel to roundtrip route=hiking|foot|bicycle
> > relations? What is the status or meaning of this "proposal: " wording? And
> > what about using direction?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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