[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Runway Holding Positions

Steven Estes tapestes at gmail.com
Fri Mar 29 19:12:57 UTC 2019

Sorry, I was confused.  It looks the tag format would be
aeroway=holding_position:type=runway.  As found here...

So, the water is a bit muddy for me.  I can use
aeroway=holding_position:type, but if there would be a reason to prefer a
different format, let me know.  In the meantime, I'll try to get a bit
smarter on the tagging system.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 2:29 PM Steven Estes <tapestes at gmail.com> wrote:

> I posted my plan to the discussion page.  TOGA points out that :runway,
> :intermediate, and :ILS are already in use (about 1000 uses total).  Given
> this, would folks still recommend holding_position=runway, or would
> holding_position:runway be more appropriate?   Thanks much.
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 11:13 AM Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>> Flightgear uses this for world generation.
>> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 12:47 Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>
>> wrote:
>>> "Inclusion of these markings will allow applications to warn the pilot
>>> prior to entering the
>>> runway safety area without permission from air traffic control. "
>>> I am pretty sure that OSM is not suitable source of data for maps used
>>> by pilots.
>>> Can you give examples of countries where it is OK to use OSM map data
>>> for such purpose?
>>> Mar 28, 2019, 6:27 PM by tapestes at gmail.com:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/runway_holding_position
>>> Proposing the addition of runway holding position markings (commonly
>>> called hold lines). Runway holding position markings are painted markings
>>> on an airport surface that identify the runway safety area. At controlled
>>> airports, these markings indicate where an aircraft is to stop if the
>>> aircraft does not have permission to enter the runway. When exiting a
>>> runway, an aircraft is not considered clear of that runway until all parts
>>> of the aircraft have crossed the holding position marking. The runway
>>> holding position is painted across the runway or taxiway and consists of
>>> two solid lines on the side that is clear of the runway safety area and two
>>> dashed lines on the other side.
>>> Greatly appreciate any comments folks have.
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