[Tagging] Misuse of name tag for route description

[Jo]

OK, so I tested and I renamed one of the many bus routes I'm maintaining,
moved from name to description. And you know what: both JOSM and the web
interface now show the ref instead of the description, so until that gets
resolved there is not very much chance people will want to move from the
name tag to the description tag.

As always, there is, of course, a reason why we 'abuse' the name tag for
this purpose. Personally I also don't think it's abusing the tag.

For the people proposing t use what is on the 'film' on the front of the
bus: there are itineraries where this text changes midway, so that's
definitely not the name fo that specific itinerary either.

Jo

On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 8:54 PM Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 2019-05-11 at 19:09 +0100, Paul Allen wrote:
>
> On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 18:53, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoniecz at tutanota.com>
> wrote:
>
> The question is whatever it requires separate proposal to fix old proposal
> or is invoking
> general rule "name tag is for name, description tag is for description"
> sufficient.
>
>
> Sometimes, and not  just for bus routes, the name and the description are
> identical.
>
> Not far from me is a house that is painted red.  Its name is Ty Coch (in
> less sloppy
> orthography it would be Tŷ Coch, but it's lost the accent over time).  The
> name has long
> been Ty Coch.  It's Welsh for "Red House."  There are a LOT of house names
> around here
> that, if they weren't in Welsh, some mapper checking my work would think
> I'd entered the
> description rather than the name.  I recently mapped an events venue in a
> converted
> farm building that calls itself "The Shed" because it's in a large shed.
> And mapped the
> building used as a play area for a campsite as "The Barn" because that's
> what the operators
> have named it, it just happens to be in what is a Dutch barn.  There are a
> lot of buildings
> that used to be mills which have names like "White Mill," "Red Mill,"
> "Garnon's Mill,"  Etc.
>
> Be careful not to insist that something cannot be the name of a thing
> because it also
> happens to be a description of that thing.  People are lazy and have
> limited imaginations:
> sometimes the description is used as the name.
>
>
> Not necessarily lazy, but names come from before the time of mass
> literacy.
>
> Back in time you would have said you live at Tŷ Coch and someone who could
> not read would find your house.
>
> The same with pub name, they are often descriptions of the picture, hence
> we still have names such as The White Lion, The Dog and Pheasant or Y Llew
> Coch.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
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