[Tagging] Feature Proposal - crossing=marked

[Nick Bolten]

I agree that it's very confuddled. I'm going to start a new thread soon
after I make some updates to the proposal, primarily for clarity and
covering some of the most common questions that have come up here. I'd like
to steal your examples, if you don't mind, for the wiki.

The response you received about specific tagging strategies seem roughly in
line with how I'd map, although I shy away from crossing=traffic_signals
due to the various previously stated reasons, although I personally focus
on mapping ways over nodes. Not that there's anything wrong with adding the
same information to a node, it's just not my focus.

Were this and the other proposal about traffic_signals adopted, your
questions would be a bit easier to answer:

(1) Is the crossing marked? If so, crossing=marked. If not,
crossing=unmarked
(2) Does the crossing have a pedestrian light (that is synchronized with a
traffic-facing stop/go light)? crossing:*signals=yes (I am going to rework
the crossing:signals proposal to distinguish pedestrian from traffic).

The only exception is the path through a parking lot that you noted. I
think that's a case that could potentially use its own new tag of some kind
- a marked path through a shared pedestrian/car space. I wouldn't tag it as
anything other than highway=footway for now.

On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:50 PM Kevin Kenny <kevin.b.kenny at gmail.com> wrote:

> This discussion is leaving me pretty bewildered.
>
> Sometimes my bewilderment can be alleviated by considering concrete
> examples.
>
> On my walk yesterday, other than the implied crossing at every
> intersection (but see "don't map local law") I noted the following:
>
> 1. Combined foot/cycle crossing - a side path from a combined
> foot/cycleway onto a very lightly trafficked suburban street. Marked
> with signs bearing the silhouette of a bicycle about 50 m in advance
> of the crossing. No markings on the pavement. (This crossing is part
> of my daily commute. The street that it crosses is quite busy, and the
> sign with the bicycle silhouette has no apparent effect on the
> drivers. Pedestrians divide into the quick and the dead.)
>
> 2. Combined foot/cycle crossing - a combined foot/cycleway crossing a
> busy two-lane street at grade. Signage both ~50 m in advance and at
> the crossing. Flashing yellow lights (meaning 'proceed with caution')
> flank the sign at the crossing. The lights can by turned on by a
> pedestrian or cyclist pushing a button. Zebra-stripe pavement
> markings.
>
> 3. Zebra-stripe pavement markings at an intersection controlled by a
> 4-way STOP sign.
>
> 4. Zebra-stripe pavement markings at an intersection controlled by a
> traffic light, with no 'WAIT/WALK' pedestrian signals.
>
> 5. Zebra-stripe pavement markings at an intersection controlled by a
> traffic light, with 'WAIT/WALK' pedestrian signals, and a countdown
> timer giving the seconds remaining to cross.
>
> 6. The same, with the pedestrian or cyclist requesting the WALK signal
> by pressing a button.
>
> 7. Zebra-stripe pavement markings, together with a sign displaying the
> silhouette of school children, in the middle of a block in front of a
> school. This crossing may be supervised during school
> arrival/departure times.
>
> 8. Zebra-stripe pedestrian markings delineating the preferred footpath
> in a parking field, and running generally perpendicular to the parking
> aisles.
>
> And I'm now in confusion about how to tag any of them.
>
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