[Tagging] Telephone poles and lines?

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Sun May 26 23:18:27 UTC 2019


Are these pole currently mapped with power=pole?

On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:50 AM Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Around me, the 'poles' carry;
>
> power,
>
> cable internet,
>
> cable TV (some times the cable carries both TV and internet combined) and
>
> telephone.
>
> The don't usually have poles for each service.
>
> The provision of a national internet service that provides a combined
> telephone service means that the telephone cable will be no more.
> There is also a reduction of 'landline' telephone as many have dropped
> that service as they now all have cell phones.
>
>
>
> On 26/05/19 21:32, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
> > I recently checked the wiki and taginfo, and was surprised that there
> > does not seem to be a preferred way to tag telephone poles, in
> > contrast to power poles and lampposts.
> >
> > Options in use are:
> > 1) man_made=utility_pole - used 4 930, has a short wiki description:
> > "A single pole supporting elevation of any of various and unspecified
> > public utilities, such as power transmission, lighting or telephony"
> > - so this can also include power poles or poles used for multiple
> > types of utilities or lamp posts which also support wires.
> >
> > 2) communication=pole - used 3316 times, no wiki page
> > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/communication=pole
> >
> > 3) man_made=pole - used 2251 times, no wiki page
> >
> > 4) telephone=pole - used 1108 times, no wiki page
> > https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/?key=telephone&value=pole
> >
> > User "Chippy" made a wiki page that documents the various tags in use
> > for telecom lines, poles and cabinets, back in 2015, but none of the
> > various tags seem to be approved or clearly de facto in use by
> > mappers:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Telecoms#Telephone_Poles
> >
> > There is also not much tagging of telephone cables (or wires?), but
> > there is a documented tag, communication=line - with a wiki page but
> > no proposal, used 2550 times. This says "Only the main connections,
> > mostly sea cables, should be mapped."
> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:communication%3Dline
> >
> > Perhaps there is a need for a proposal to map minor communication
> > cables, eg. communication=minor_line?
> >
> > Is there a need to map smaller telephone or utility poles?
> >
> > I don't have any personal interest in mapping this right now (I'm
> > still working on rivers, villages and highways in my area!) but it
> > seems similar to "power=minor_line" and "power=pole" in significance,
> > and I suppose it's better to develop a good tagging system now.
> >
> > While using the key "man_made" would be easiest, perhaps the
> > communication key is a good idea, parallel to "power"?
> >
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