[Tagging] Hunting stands, bird and wildlife hides

[Philip Barnes]

On Tuesday, 22 October 2019, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> You may need to look at the context, or ask local people.
> 
> For example many named peaks, streams, saddles have no explicit sign - 
> you need to ask local people or base it on your own knowledge.
>
Or use out of copyright mapping.

Phil (trigpoint)

 
> 22 Oct 2019, 16:36 by ilya at zverev.info:
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> > I understand the reasoning, but I don’t see how can I follow the “truth on the ground” principle. Are there any guidelines on choosing the correct tag? For some reason people don’t write its purpose on a side. And again, images in three of these pages are the same.
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> > Ilya
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> >> On 22 Oct 2019, at 10:46, Martin Koppenhoefer <>> dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>>> > wrote:
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> >> Am Di., 22. Okt. 2019 um 09:35 Uhr schrieb Ilya Zverev <>> ilya at zverev.info <mailto:ilya at zverev.info>>> >:
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> >>> Hi folks,
> >>>
> >>> Today we were looking for a tag to mark this structure:
> >>>
> >>> http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/5/some_hide.jpg <http://not.textual.ru/zverik/2/5/some_hide.jpg>
> >>>
> >>> Searching the wiki gave out FIVE options:
> >>>
> >>> - >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dbird_hide <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=bird_hide>
> >>> ->>>  >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dwildlife_hide <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=wildlife_hide>
> >>> ->>>  >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhunting_stand <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=hunting_stand>
> >>> ->>>  >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:hunting%3Draised_hide <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:hunting=raised_hide>
> >>> ->>>  >>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tower:type%3Dobservation <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tower:type=observation>
> >>>
> >>> What’s confusing is that photos in the first three look the same, even with a book on birds featured on the wildlife_hide page.
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> >>>
> >>> I can imagine how tower:type=observation differs from the others, but what do you think about four others? Should we add a warning box on all three “_hide” tags to use amenity=hunting_stand instead? Or choose one “_hide” over others? Currently the wiki is very disorienting.
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> >> a hunting stand is a place where hunters are waiting for animals to shoot them. A bird hide or wildlife hide is a place where you can observe animals / birds.
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> >> I do not recall any discussion about hunting=raised_hide and it seems to be a duplicate or sub-group of hunting stand. The tag should probably be discouraged as stand alone tag (in favor of hunting stand), but it could make sense to state the subtype of hunting stand.
> >>
> >> Observation towers are similar features, but usually higher and not specifically for watching animals. The definition says they are for "long distance" observations, while hunting stands are for observing within shooting range.
> >>
> >> With regard to your photo, we cannot tell which is the correct tag, because we do not know what the purpose is.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Martin
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