[Tagging] Deprecating mini_roundabout
Florian Lohoff
f at zz.de
Wed Oct 23 12:32:56 UTC 2019
Hi Richard,
On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 04:41:57AM -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
> > You would expect (as you see a roundabout sign) to get instructions to
> > take the n.th exit.
>
> What? No. No. You wouldn't.
>
> Mini-roundabouts are almost always at junctions with only three or four
> exits. The Government guidance explicitly states so
> (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/561491/mini-roundabouts-report.pdf,
> para 3.9).
>
> Any UK driver would expect their satnav to say "turn left" or "straight on"
> at a mini-roundabout, not "take the first exit".
>
> Could I suggest that you refrain from tag-fiddling on a subject where you
> clearly have no experience?
The point is that people (as i have sent in the example) currently see
the only difference to be that a mini_roundabout can be traversed in the
center. So - as in my example - somebody changed a clear roundabout to
a mini_roundabout with 7 exits just because its flat in the middle.
And they expect to get the same navaids.
So either - their understanding is wrong, the documentation is unclear
or there is no differentiation which is proper.
I assumed (for 12+ years i am doing OSM) that a mini_roundabout is just
a small roundabout where trucks for example can traverse the center.
You corrected this assumption now. I have never personally used the
mini_roundabout.
A question which arises for me now - Why is it called roundabout
when there is no roundabout - when its just a junction. Isnt that
a bit misleading? Probably this is just some english non native
speaker problem.
I'd expect a roundabout (either mini or not) to produce nav aids
in the format of "take the n.th exit" not something "left at the next
junction"
From the document you mention i have the feeling that that is a British
special. We dont have anything like that in the German StVO - Either
its a Roundabout sign (Zeichen 215) or not. No differentiation whether
the center may be traversed (Except that if you do unneeded you get a
ticket)
Flo
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