[Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

Janko Mihelić janjko at gmail.com
Mon Sep 9 08:46:54 UTC 2019


>
> Monaco is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City-state


I'm not convinced. If city-state is a city and a state in one, then why do
we have two objects in Openstreetmap? Then it should be one relation with
admin_level=2 + place=city. As I understand, City-state doesn't mean it is
a dual entity, it means this is a special kind of state, that is consisted
only of one city.

But if it really is a dual entity, then this tag is made for it, put
part:wikidata=Q235 on both. But I don't think this is the case.

Janko

pon, 9. ruj 2019. u 02:58 Imre Samu <pella.samu at gmail.com> napisao je:

> >> Which OSM object will be the real "Monaco"?
> > Relation 1124039 should be  the only one with the wikidata tag.
> > It's the only one that represents the country (boundary=administrative +
> admin_level=2), which the wikipedia article is about.
> > Relation 2220322 is a city (place=city). Wikipedia article is about the
> country.
>
> imho: Monaco ( https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q235 )
> instance of(P31)
> - "city-state"  ->  r2220322 (place=city)
> - AND "country"    ->  r1124039  (country )
>
> so  1:2 relationship  ( 1 wikidata : 2 osm object)  is correct.
> Monaco is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City-state
>
>
>
>
> Janko Mihelić <janjko at gmail.com> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. szept. 9., H,
> 0:54):
>
>> ned, 8. ruj 2019. u 23:17 Imre Samu <pella.samu at gmail.com> napisao je:
>>
>>> the 1:1 relationship is not so easy.
>>> What is your proposal for  Monaco (Q235) ?
>>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q235
>>> now: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/wikidata=Q235#overview
>>> - 2 nodes
>>> - 3 relations
>>> Which OSM object will be the real "Monaco"?
>>>
>>
>> Relation 1124039 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1124039> should
>> be  the only one with the wikidata tag. It's the only one that represents
>> the country (boundary=administrative + admin_level=2), which the wikipedia
>> article is about.
>> Relation 2220322 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2220322> is a
>> city (place=city). Wikipedia article is about the country.
>> Relation 36990 <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/36990> is land
>> area of a country (boundary=land_area). Not quite sure what it's used for,
>> but it's not a boundary of a country.
>> Nodes are helpers for label placement, which are not widely used by
>> renderers anymore.
>>
>> Janko
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