[Tagging] Draft proposal for Key:aerodrome
Joseph Eisenberg
joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Tue Sep 10 22:30:02 UTC 2019
According to https://skyvector.com/airport/1S1/Eckhart-International-Airport
- Eckhart "Airport" is only open to private chartered flights, and it
has a grass (turf) runway, unattended, closed in winter. It's
certainly not what an ordinary person would consider an "airport". It
doesn't have an IATA code, so that's a good hint that it doesn't have
any commercial airline service.
A general map users is not going to be interested in searching for a
place like Eckhart, unless they are the sort of person who charters
corporate jet flights, or a pilot, and there are specialized databases
for such purposes.
So "international_flights=no", "commercial_flights=no" is appropriate
for aerodromes like this.
On 9/11/19, Mark Wagner <mark+osm at carnildo.com> wrote:
>
> Which is likely to cause confusion, because in the United States, an
> "international airport" is one that's got customs facilities. John F.
> Kennedy International (New York City's largest airport) and Eckhart
> International (a small grass strip near the Idaho-Canada border) are
> both considered international airports.
>
> --
> Mark
>
> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 19:10:52 +0900
> Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The tag aerodrome=international was meant for airports that have
>> regularly scheduled commercial passenger flights to another country.
>>
>> On 9/10/19, Chris Hill <osm at raggedred.net> wrote:
>> > On 10 September 2019 08:35:42 BST, Joseph Eisenberg
>> > <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>I've started a new proposal for Key:aerodrome.
>> >>
>> >>See
>> >>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:aerodrome
>> >>
>> >>This proposal uses aerodrome=* for classification of an
>> >>aeroway=aerodrome as an international airport, other commercial
>> >>airport, general aviation aerodrome, private aerodrome, or airstrip.
>> >>
>> >>It would deprecate aeroway=airstrip and aerodrome:type=*
>> >>
>> >>Values to be approved:
>> >>* aerodrome=international - already common
>> >>* aerodrome=commercial - new tag
>> >>* aerodrome=general_aviation - new tag (default type)
>> >>* aerodrome=private - already common
>> >>* aerodrome=airstrip
>> >>
>> >>Currently the IATA code is quite helpful for finding commercial
>> >>airports which offer scheduled passenger flights, but a few
>> >>aerodromes with an IATA code do not have commercial flights.
>> >>
>> >>It would be helpful to know which airports have international
>> >>flights, and the tag aerodrome=international has already been used
>> >>over 1000 times.
>> >>
>> >>aerodrome=airstrip is better than aeroway=airstrip, because an
>> >>airstrip is still a type of aerodrome.
>> >>
>> >>aerodrome=private is already widely used, but I'm also recommending
>> >>adding access=*
>> >>
>> >>Comments? I still need to add some examples.
>> >>
>> >>- Joseph Eisenberg
>> >>
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>> > Any airfield, no matter how small, can make international flights.
>> > I have used an air taxi service from a small, registered airfield
>> > to fly from the UK to France. The airfield had no commercial or
>> > regular flights, it was used by private pilots for fun (usually
>> > termed 'general aviation') and for a few ad-hoc commercial flights:
>> > specialist cargo, on-off passenger runs, a base for filming flights
>> > etc. Private pilots make international flights from all kinds of
>> > airfields all the time, so I'm not sure that's a useful
>> > distinction. People generally want to know if they can get a
>> > scheduled or charter flight to or from an airport. --
>> > Chris Hill
>> > ( OSM: chillly)
>>
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