[Tagging] Tourist bus stop

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Thu Sep 12 00:44:55 UTC 2019


The Key:bus has this definition currently
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bus):

"A bus is a large motor vehicle used for public transport of passengers.

"In most countries a bus is a larger public service vehicle or public
transport vehicle used to transport passengers, with more than 9 or 12
seating positions, but the specific definition may vary by location.
Long-distance and inter-city bus and coach=* vehicles may or may not
be included. Trolleybuses are usually included.

"There are two uses of this tag: 1) to specify legal access
restrictions for buses. 2) to specify the type of passenger public
transport vehicle that uses a stop or station.

"Also see the more common access tag psv=* which includes public
transport buses as well as other public service vehicles."

So if "tourist_bus=*" is for all buses which are not a "psv=*", then
it probably should include minibuses and vans, depending on the local
definition of "bus".

For example, I would think there here in Indonesia the minibuses would
be included (which are no larger than an American "minivan", but have
much higher capacity due to lack of seatbelts and use of bench seats).

Most of these are "PSVs" (public service vehicles / public transit)
but some are "for hire" like an Italian tourist bus or an English
hired motorcoach.

I agree that "[motor]coach=" might have been clearer, but I'm ok with
keeping "tourist_bus=*" since it may actually be easier to translate
into most languages, and "coach=*" can also be ambiguous, since it
used to refer to horse-drawn vehicles and passenger railway cars, so
"motorcoach" would have been needed. Also, some definitions of
"coach=" seem to be limited to larger inter-city style buses, with
seatbelts, individual seats instead of benches, etc.

See also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:coach

On 9/12/19, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
> FWIW, there is in many jurisdictions a vehicle class for busses which is
> currently covered by the value: "tourist_bus" defined as bus not acting as
> a public service vehicle.
>
> As I have stated before, "motorbus" would have been a better (more
> consistent hence self-explaining) choice for the key name of the generic
> bus vehicle class (but with currently almost 8000 uses of tourist_bus, it
> seems hard to rename this).
>
> Additionally, for the context of the tourist bus stop, according to what is
> intended, this definition might not encompass every kind of vehicle that is
> intended by "tourist bus stop" (e.g. if you want to allow usage for
> vehicles used for the transportation of tourists, not included in public
> transport, but also not "buses" by definition).
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>



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