[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri Apr 17 11:03:52 UTC 2020


On 17/4/20 5:29 am, Manon Viou wrote:
> Hello,
> According to Martin and Warin, the difference between large and small 
> refugee site is not clear enough,
> Martin suggested to use population capacity, for instance less than 
> 200 people fro small refugee site,
> Warin suggested to use number of square meters,
> For what I have observed, small facilities sheltering refugee (for 
> instance: refugee centers, accommodation center, care and hosting 
> center, church) are not exactly what we can call refugee site. the 
> difference, beyond the number of building, number of population or 
> square meter, is quite obvious.


?? How is it 'obvious'???


I have no idea of what that 'obvious' thing is!



> Is it really necessary to set a precise rule ?


At the moment there is nothing that can be used to distinguish between 
the two.

Suggestion have been made on the number of buildings, number of people 
and the area.


Please tell us how you distinguish between them.


> I would rather suggest to share some example (like the ones mentioned 
> above) in order to help contributors to decide if it rather an 
> amenity=refugee_site or a social_facility=shelter.


Examples are fine. But there must be a statement in words of the 
difference between them.

> Regards,
> Manon
>> Le 16 avril 2020 à 02:16, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> On 16/4/20 1:23 am, Manon Viou wrote:
>>> Thanks Martin, yes, refugee sites should always be temporary even 
>>> if, as you said, some turn to be very long term places. That's why 
>>> we do not suggest to add temporary/permanent options.
>>> Manon
>>
>>
>> In which case the description for amenity=social_facility + 
>> social_facility=shelter is not correct.
>>
>>
>> If it is to be done on area then specify the number of square meters 
>> rather than the number of buildings???
>>
>> Buildings can be a of different sizes and capacities. An area could 
>> be more consistent as to the number of people.
>>
>> Imagery may not be up to date so counting buildings may not be possible.
>>
>>
>>>> Le 15 avril 2020 à 11:36, Martin Koppenhoefer < 
>>>> dieterdreist at gmail.com <mailto:dieterdreist at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> sent from a phone
>>>>
>>>>> On 15. Apr 2020, at 01:13, Warin < 61sundowner at gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:61sundowner at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would think amenity=refugee_site is an area set aside for the 
>>>>> non-temporary residential use of refugees
>>>>
>>>> maybe I’m a dreamer, but I would expect all refugee related 
>>>> features to be “temporary”, even if we are talking about relatively 
>>>> long periods of time
>>>>
>>>> Cheers Martin
>>>
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