[Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"

Walker Bradley walker.t.bradley at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 14:37:42 UTC 2020


Is there further discussion on this, or do the advocates thing it’s ready for a vote?

> On Jun 26, 2020, at 11:19, Walker Bradley <WALKER.T.BRADLEY at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I fully support it as outlined by Joseph.
> 
>>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 12:59, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> > Regarding man_made=qanat versus canal=qanat, it is worth pointing out that qanats surface and become surface canals for irrigation and distribution.  > Thus, it would be continuity to go from waterway=canal, canal=qanat, tunnel=yes to waterway=canal instead.
>> 
>> Yes, that is the plan. You can also add usage=irrigation or another appropriate value of usage=*, and width=*
>> 
>> – Joseph Eisenberg
>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:12 AM Walker Bradley <walker.t.bradley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I concur that historic or heritage should be secondary tags.
>>> 
>>> Regarding man_made=qanat versus canal=qanat, it is worth pointing out that qanats surface and become surface canals for irrigation and distribution.  Thus, it would be continuity to go from waterway=canal, canal=qanat, tunnel=yes to waterway=canal instead.  Thoughts?
>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 26, 2020, at 11:27, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 26 Jun 2020 at 15:57, Walker Bradley <walker.t.bradley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So it would seem that historic=* or heritage=* would be appropriate sub-tags for qanats when applicable on top of waterway=canal, canal=qanat, tunnel=yes.
>>>> 
>>>> That's how I see it.  Using historic=qanat for modern qanats seems wrong.  So
>>>> if we need different tagging for modern qanats anyway, then handle historic
>>>> qanats by adding historic=yes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess we would need to discuss after the approval of Qanat for what criterion/ia would determine historic=yes for qanat.
>>>> 
>>>> See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Historic and then discuss if it needs
>>>> modifying/expanding to specifically deal with qanats or if the page for
>>>> man_made=qanat needs text clarifying what Historic means for qanats.
>>>> 
>>>> If a historian, even an amateur one, is eager to visit it then it's historic.
>>>> If a historian takes a look and says "Meh" then it isn't historic.  Which
>>>> isn't a very objective metric, so some would say the historic tag
>>>> shouldn't be used at all (another good reason to prefer man_made=qanat)
>>>> over historic=qanat).
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
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