[Tagging] new page for tree_lined=*

Volker Schmidt voschix at gmail.com
Sat Aug 15 05:29:44 UTC 2020

I love tree-lined roads in the country side or in city settings.
I would love a router that I could instruct to find them for me.
For travelling by car and by bicycle.
In past periods trees were part of the road.
I like the idea of easily adding this feature to the map.
But I also fear the maintenance requirements and hence quality issues this
may generate.

I do see these issues with adding sidewalks and cycle paths, where we have
a similar choice between mapping as separate objects or as road property.

Map maintenance is mostly limited by available manpower. A leisurely 30km
bike ride with Mapillary images produces "data"  for one week of JOSM
sessions to convert the collected information in map data.

Thanks for having read so far. I have no solution, but would suggest to
create a single wiki page for tree-lined road mapping, so that we have one
place where we describe the three different approaches for mapping them.

And maybe we invent a work flow to extract those lovely tree-lined country
roads from Mapillary's semantic AI efforts.

When I was a boy I learned from my father, who loved travelling by car,
that his secret was to follow those roads that had the green side bar on
the Michelin 1:200000 classic maps, which in my area often were roads built
by Napoleon, and he always planted trees along the roads (not for cyclists,
but for his troops).

On Sat, 15 Aug 2020, 00:26 Christian Müller via Tagging, <
tagging at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> > On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 14:33, Paul Allen via Tagging <
> tagging at openstreetmap.org[mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org]> wrote:
> > Is there a serious need (other than, say, one person's dissertation) to
> perform
> > database queries to find objects that are tree-lined?  I can see the
> need to
> > find the nearest car park with disabled spaces, or vehicle charging
> points, but
> > not for trees lining it.  That's probably just me, but trees lining a
> car park do
> > not influence my choice of whether or not to use it.
> It may be important to the crazy people that still use their bicycle
> in an otherwise air-conditioned, motorized world.  "Back in the days"
> people with a less strange relation to mother nature knew that a tree
> lined way has much more comfort cycling on if these trees spend shadow
> on a sunny day.  If you do long-distance cycling it may be of interest
> to find a route not predominantly exposed to sheer sun.
> /rants on/
> Unfortunately, most people do not seem to care.  Driving a car is
> "god given" and if you say anything people go crazy.  If you don't
> own something that makes noise and pollutes the environment, di-
> rectly by fumes or indirectly by production (the electro hype),
> you're deemed impotent or low-performing.  And anti-mobbing
> courses are beyond the scope of OSM. :.p
> /rants off/
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