[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -Funeral hall

[wolle68 at posteo.de]

I'm not familiar with such privately owned cemeteries, so others may be 
better placed.

Here are my thoughts from what you write:

If there is a crematorium, as I already wrote, I think it's pointless to 
add such a new tag, because a room like that would probably go with any 
crematorium anyhow (or maybe one could tag it if the building is 
completely distinct).

Funeral directors often have their own ceremony rooms in some countries. 
Just as with the crematorium, I wouldn't add a tag unless it's a 
distinct building (but I'm completely open about this).

Here, if I've understood correctly, we have a funeral directors shop 
with its own cemetery.  I suppose it makes sense to tag a "funeral 
hall", because for other cemeteries we would also give the info that 
they have such premises. In the case of your example, they appear to 
have two spaces "chapel space" for religious funerals and "event space" 
for others.  If you know where they are, you could even tag one 
amenity=place_of_worship / religion=multifaith and the other 
amenity=funeral_hall.

To sum it up, we could say to tag any such premise, unless it is clearly 
ancillary to an already tagged crematorium or funeral directors shop.

For those airport chapels, I guess they are supposed to be at least 
religious. As long as that is the case, I don't see an issue with "place 
of worship".  The day they start calling their chapel "meditation room", 
we might indeed have to think about something else.


Am 19.08.2020 17:56 schrieb Joseph Eisenberg:
> In the US, there are privately owned cemeteries, often with a private
> funeral home / mortuary building on the site. You can buy a plot and
> also pay for the funeral services, including the use of a hall for a
> viewing, reception or funeral service (religious or otherwise).
> 
>  E.g.:
> https://www.dignitymemorial.com/funeral-homes/glendale-az/west-resthaven-funeral-home/4707
> [2] - a funeral home and private cemetery.
> 
> In many American cities most of the cemeteries, crematoriums and
> mausoleums are privately owned and operated.
> 
> So my question is if we should add this new tag to the reception /
> service halls which are found at at private funeral homes / mortuaries
> as well? Often these are in the same building as the crematorium and
> the morgue (where bodies are prepared and stored prior to burial or
> cremation), and the offices and reception for the funeral home are
> also there.
> 
> Or are we only thinking to use this new tag for stand-alone halls?
> 
> It would also be good to clarify how these are different than a
> place_of_worship. For example, consider the many non-sectarian chapels
> and prayer rooms found in airports, shopping centres, hospitals, and
> similar public facilities. Aren't those tagged as
> amenity=place_of_worship - or is that also a mistake?
> 
> - Joseph Eisenberg
> 
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 7:13 AM <wolle68 at posteo.de> wrote:
> 
>> Not important at all. I just think that if it is ancillary to the
>> business of selling coffins, transporting corpses, preparing them
>> for
>> burial, doing paperwork in relation to that etc. (what the French
>> call a
>> "funérarium"), then it doesn't deserve a tag distinct from the
>> funeral
>> directors tag (but if a majority think otherwise, I don't have
>> strong
>> feelings about it either).
>> 
>> Am 19.08.2020 15:47 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
>>> sent from a phone
>>> 
>>>>> On 19. Aug 2020, at 15:33, wolle68 at posteo.de wrote:
>>>> I could imagine rare cases of a privately run cemetery not
>> linked to
>>>> any religion or belief/life stance and where there is such a
>> building.
>>>> But typically, they would be public.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> let me rephrase my question: how important is it that the
>> facility is
>>> “public”?
>>> IMHO this feature should have a functional definition only,
>> everything
>>> else depends on the context and is not really relevant.
>>> 
>>> Cheers Martin
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