[Tagging] Benches and hostile architecture

Oliver Simmons oliversimmo at gmail.com
Sun Aug 23 16:38:36 UTC 2020

I agree with the `hostile_architecture=` tag as this could be expanded on
in the future.

Other types of common hostile architecture I know of:
- sloped bus stop benches
- spikes on the floor
- bike racks in annoying places

I propose `hostile_architecture=spikes`
and `hostile_architecture=yes` for when it is more vague.

As far as I know they are all anti-homeless to try and move them elsewhere
out of the public eye.
(makes it seems as if there are less homeless people)

On Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 17:30 Vucod via Tagging, <tagging at openstreetmap.org>

> Hello,
> 1) I wish to tag benches that were designed to avoid that someone lie on
> it. There has been some related discussions in the past (
> https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/avbmsb/is_there_a_preferred_way_of_mapping_possible/
> and
> https://www.reddit.com/r/openstreetmap/comments/8rs7zf/how_to_map_antihomeless_bench/
> )
> but with no conclusion. It is possible that it has retained people to map
> that kind of objects. Today, there is nearly no such information in OSM.
> Maybe it is because it is not its place? Nobody expressed that clearly.
> So, I started to use the tag *lying_hindrance=yes* on some benches. In
> case of doubts, this can be verified when doing surveys, by lying on the
> bench. This could also be determined most of the time by looking at a few
> things. The length of the bench, the presence of a slope, the presence of
> separation between the seats of the bench, and by checking if it is a
> standing bench. Note that length was refused as an official key for bench
> and that the key for the separation doesn't exist (armrest does not
> specifically concern the inner part of the bench). The tag could be
> extended by specifying the hindrance type: armrest, standing_bench,
> short_length, slope, ...
> What do you think about this tag? Do you have alternative ideas?
> 2) Also, I wish to map something else related to hostile architecture
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_architecture>. I wish to map
> devices that are placed near the entrance of shops to prevent people to sit
> there (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGdHfvsCP7A,
> https://twitter.com/ArticuleE/status/1222197697333145603,
> https://twitter.com/ArticuleE/status/1215931276944924672). I was going to
> add a combination of tags on the building where the shop is located:
> sitting_hindrance=yes
> sitting_hindrance:location=street_side
> It can also be verified quite easily. A general tag like
> hostile_architecture={sitting_hindrance|lying_hindrance} would also be
> quite useful for mappers to rapidly understand the purpose of these tags.
> What do you think about it?
> Thanks for your time
> Vucod
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