[Tagging] Inclined elevators

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Fri Dec 4 21:58:14 UTC 2020


I've looked into these.

Most inclined elevators seem to also operate with cables, with the
difference being that in a funicular there are 2 cars attached to 1 cable,
so one ascends while the other descends, but in an inclined elevator each
car (or there might only be 1 car) is attached to a counterweight or a
winch.

Unfortunately it looks like most uses of the tag highway=elevator on a way
are actually areas (closed ways):
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10S8 - 3080 highway=elevator ways are closed. A
review of a few of these suggests they are mostly 4 node rectangular ways
which represent the area of a verticle elevator. About half are tagged
indoor=room - https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10Se
vs
https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/10S9 - 190 ways which are not closed. These
look to be inclined elevators, though in some cases it’s not possible to
tell if they might actually be a funicular instead.

While railway=funicular is 10 times as common, this might or might not
represent the actual relative frequency of these features in the real
world, I don’t know.

The wiki page text says that a railway=funicular is "A funicular, also
known as an inclined plane or cliff railway, is a cable railway in which a
cable attached to a pair of tram-like vehicles on rails moves them up and
down a steep slope, the ascending and descending vehicles counterbalancing
each other.”

However, the description in the infobox (which is much more commonly seen
in places like taginfo and iD) is only “Cable driven inclined railway” -
and this could include many types of "inclined elevators” which mostly run
on rails too. So mappers might be using railway=funicular for inclined
elevators already.


-- Joseph Eisenberg

On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:55 PM Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, 4 Dec 2020 at 08:33, Guillaume Chauvat <guillaume at chauvat.eu>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, but this is a node, not a way. Inclined elevators require a way and
>> those are not displayed properly.
>>
>
> Sorry, didn't get what you were getting at!
>
> Graeme
>
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