[Tagging] destination:ref with direction?

[Mateusz Konieczny]

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Dec 16, 2020, 16:49 by osm at dead10ck.com:

> Right, this is what I was thinking as well, it makes a lot of sense to have the direction that's on the sign post to aid with navigation. It seems a dedicated wiki that documents current practices would be helpful. Thank you!
> -- 
> Skyler
>
> On Wed, 2020-12-16 at 16:33 +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
>
>> On 16.12.2020 14:19, Skyler Hawthorne wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2020, at 05:44, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
>>>
>>>> What is written on the sign at this junction? If "North" is mentioned there I would be
>>>> happy enough with the tagging above.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is correct, the sign says "I 787 North". However the wiki page for the destination:ref key states:
>>>
>>>     The key destination:ref <
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:destination:ref>=*
>>>  should be
>>>     used to specify the reference of the roads directly ahead as indicated on signposts, road
>>>     markings or similar. The value of this key should be equal to the value of the key ref
>>>     <
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref>=*
>>>  of these roads.
>>>
>>> Note the last sentence. If the destination:ref must be the same as the ref it is going to, then this 
>>> would be I 787, or else all the ways along the entire I 787 route should have their ref tags changed 
>>> to indicate direction as well.
>>>
>>
>> Well, it says 'should', not 'must', thus in this case using destination:ref="I 787 North" is a 
>> refinement of just "I 787". Maybe an improvement for the phrase in the wiki would be
>> "should be equal to or a further qualification of related to the value...".
>>
>> On 16.12.2020 15:41, Paul Johnson wrote:
>>  > Wouldn't it make more sense, and isn't it already more common, for destination tags to contain the
>>  > information on the destination signs, which /do/ differentiate direction?
>>
>> Haven't analysed that, but if the destinations are signposted that way, it should be reflected in
>> the tagging.
>>
>>  > I feel like this is another example of "the wiki was written by someone with inadequate information."
>>
>> Both tagging and wiki develop, hopefully forward. In this case, Key:destination:ref redirects
>> onto an old 2012 proposal, I'm probably going to resolve that soon with describing the current practice.
>>
>>   tom
>>
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