[Tagging] natural=fell not rendered, alternatives?

[Anders Torger]

Thanks Steve, good to know about the wiki, I had a hunch that was how 
it's meant but wasn't really sure. Certainly descriptive for this tag. I 
guess I could "take over" the fell tag but starting massively use it for 
bare mountain landcover, but I shall look more closely into 
alternatives.

Just starting using Overpass Turbo, seems like a really cool and useful 
tool, and impressively fast for the amount of data there is. With a bit 
of learning curve as you say though :-D.

I think I've read about heath+alpine=yes somewhere, I'll see if I can 
make an OT search for it :-).

/Anders

On 2020-12-21 19:11, stevea wrote:
> Nice, Anders.  You can use taginfo to get "the raw numbers" (quantity)
> of a particular kind of tagging.  What might work specifically for you
> in this case is to use some well-crafted Overpass Turbo queries (over
> a specific area at first, you can use the "bbox" method of "what you
> see on-screen" or you can use the "geocodeArea" directive to restrict
> the query to a named place).  OT querying takes some practice to
> become skilled in its vast power to query OSM data, but it is worth
> investing in the learning curve to do this, as it is likely (imo) the
> most powerful tool we have to ask our data "what about this, like
> this?"
> 
> Usually, our wiki describe "tagging as is," what is known as
> "descriptive."  On occasion, some wiki will be "prescriptive," meaning
> "here is how one SHOULD tag, though I make a point to say that any
> wiki which does that should say so explicitly.
> 
> Good luck in your endeavors!
> 
> SteveA
> 
> 
> On Dec 21, 2020, at 9:56 AM, Anders Torger <anders at torger.se> wrote:
>> I just discovered a strange(?) thing with the "natural=fell" tag which 
>> I missed at first: on the wiki page there's two purposes defined of 
>> this single tag, the first is landcover of bare mountain as discussed, 
>> and the other purpose is, quote from the wiki:
>> 
>> "In the north of England, and probably in other areas of Norse 
>> influence such as Iceland, Norway and Sweden, there is a practice of 
>> naming the sides of hills, fells, rather than peaks. A single hill can 
>> have different names on different sides. This tag can be used to 
>> record such names."
>> 
>> It's true that we do have such a practice although more so at lower 
>> altitudes. I recently added such a name on an alpine mountain as a 
>> fell cutout with a fixme tag (there is no other tag for slopes I 
>> think, didn't realize that "fell" is it). However as said we have 
>> "fell" in that sense in forested areas as well, even more common 
>> there.
>> 
>> I guess if "fell without name tag" is defined as landcover, and "fell 
>> with name tag" is defined as fuzzy area naming a side of a hill it 
>> could work, but it's the first time I see this type of dual 
>> definition. Is it normal, or is the wiki page just documenting how 
>> this tag have ended up being used?
>> 
>> /Anders
> 
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