[Tagging] The showstoppers for mapping Scandinavian nature.

[Peter Elderson]

I think there are ways to tag e.g. size, shape and centerpoint of an area
without defining exact borders. It would require letting go of the idea
that verifiability=precision. Precision would be a value for degree of
precision. Since shapes can be very complicated shapes one could think of a
centerpoint + miniature representation + blow-up factor + precision
indicator. A relation could hold this and be tagged with additional
information.
Only the centerpoint has to be an actual node. The miniature can be a
simple track.

Such a scheme is extendible: there could be more than one centerpoint, more
than one miniature, so a fuzzy area with other fuzzy areas in it, discrete
or overlapping areas with all the same name or maybe more specific
subnames, can be accommodated.

I'm not proposing, just thinking, the problem doesn't look that hard to
solve, informationwise. I'm sure others can come up , or already have come
up, with better ways to do this.

Peter Elderson


Op ma 28 dec. 2020 om 06:29 schreef stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com>:

> Right, Graeme, there ARE such signs.  That's an important chunk of truth,
> right there.  Another one, more germane to where it "goes south" (sorry if
> that insults those in the Southern Hemisphere, it isn't meant to) is "but
> where does this mountain range END?"  The foothills...one trails off as one
> describes a steppe or plateau or "flat range" or whatever Aussies call that
> part of "no longer in the mountains" below that range.  And that isn't a
> crisp line.  OSM likes crisp lines.  It doesn't seem to like "I can't quite
> say where this begins and ends" and that's what we have here.
>
> SteveA
>
> > On Dec 27, 2020, at 9:22 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefitz1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Dec 2020 at 14:55, stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:
> > something isn't verifiable and we're back to that.
> >
> > But if you stop anywhere along it's length, point to a mountain & ask a
> local, "What Range is that mountain part of?", they'll all say the Great
> Dividing Range.
> >
> > I've personally seen road signs that say you are crossing the Great
> Dividing Range.
> >
> > Lots of articles talk about & map it.
> >
> > Don't these things all make it verifiable?
> >
> > & on the subject of maps, here's a beautifully fuzzy one! :-)
> https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Great_Dividing_Range
> >
> > What would be the problem of more-or-less duplicating that in OSM &
> calling it the Great Dividing Range. No, it's not what I'd call accurate,
> but it tells you that there are lumpy bits in that area! :-)
>
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