[Tagging] [OSM-talk] Should we map things that do not exist?

Phake Nick c933103 at gmail.com
Thu Dec 31 21:12:23 UTC 2020


Out of my memory that is not a correct conclusion of what have been covered
in the thread

在 2021年1月1日週五 01:17,Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> 寫道:

> Re-opening this thread, sorry.
>
> The wording in the wiki page Demolished Railway
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Demolished_Railway> that was
> introduced in July 2019 halfway in an inclusive discussion in this thread,
> still includes the statement:
> "Its course is well documented, but such historic feature is out of scope
> of OpenStreetMap, should not be mapped and can be deleted if mapped" (in a
> picture caption)
> There is a similar wording
> " Place where railway existed in the past. It must not be tagged in any
> way, as no trace of it remains."
> that was inserted on 17 July 2019 into the wiki page Life cycle prefix
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lifecycle_prefix>
>
> Both statements are not only not reflecting correctly the inconclusive
> discussion in this thread, but are also against the spirit of good practice
> in OSM.
>
> As I had pointed out in several contributions to this discussion, with
> support of some of the other participants, there can be good reasons to
> have such information in OSM, and there was no agreement that such bits in
> abandoned-railway routes should be removed from the database.
>
> A similar discussion has been opened in the Italian list now, proposing
> the deletion of such pieces that are invisible on the ground.
>
>  I just want to add a pointer here to a big (6k km) cycling project in
> the US <https://www.railstotrails.org> that is underlining my point that
> razed/dismantled/removed/disused railways do have a place in map data.
>
> Have a god and safe 2021
>
> Volker
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2020 at 02:19, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 9/6/20 6:46 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> >
>> > sent from a phone
>> >
>> >> On 9. Jun 2020, at 03:40, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Similar for Roamn and Saxon sites, if there is something present
>> today, map it... nothing there then nothing on OSM, put it in OHM
>> >
>> > Warin, can you give an example for something historic that is not there
>> any more in reality and should be removed from OpenStreetMap? Through all
>> the years I have never encountered anything like this mapped in
>> OpenStreetMap.
>> >
>> >
>> Way: former Buninyong line (802945258)
>>
>> Way: Buninyong Line (802945251)
>>
>> Way: Ballarat - Buninyong line (168429101)
>>
>>
>> Note I put these in OHM ~2 years ago.
>>
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