[Tagging] Unremovable bollards

[Jez Nicholson]

Looking at Taginfo I'm now in an existential crisis over the 124 bollards
that are simultaneously not bollards.... "bollard":"no".  C'eci n'est pas
un bollard?

On Sun, 16 Feb 2020, 11:31 Florimond Berthoux, <florimond.berthoux at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Checking https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bollard#values
> unremovable is already used a lot, though irremovable is used also but
> four times less. So I guess you can document the value.
> (And no tag doesn't mean unremovable of course.)
>
> I would like to add that there's a common type in Paris "Potelet sécable"
> breakable bollard which are designed to break in two piece if pushed too
> much. [1] <http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf>
> Only a small piece break, so they can be repaired quickly and for not much
> money.
> They are used a lot when firemen should be able to go with their trucks on
> an pedestrian area.
>
> No sure if those breakable bollards should be tag as bollard=unremovable
> with subtag (unremovable=breakable) or directly bollard=breakable.
>
>
> [1] http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf
> <http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf>
>
> Le sam. 15 févr. 2020 à 19:54, Hauke Stieler <mail at hauke-stieler.de> a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> there's the "bollard" key with documented value "rising" and "removable"
>> [0] but I often encounter also bollards which cannot be removed easily.
>> I would love to see the "unremovable" value in the documentation. Should
>> I open a proposal page for this one value? That sounds a bit of an
>> overkill to me.
>>
>> My suggestion is the value "unremovable":
>> A bollard which cannot be removed without destroying it or at least
>> cause severe damage to it. A bollard which can only be removed by
>> authorized people with some sort of key is still "removable".
>>
>> I would not use the value "fixed" or "irremovable" for two reasons: The
>> "unremovable" value is used more often [1] and would be a good
>> counter-value for "removable".
>>
>> Hauke
>>
>> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard
>> [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values
>>
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