[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

Thu Feb 27 01:05:32 UTC 2020

> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was voted ?

That's not necessary. It's fine to keep the proposal name as it is.

> 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ?

Login to the wiki, then go to
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water:refill and
click "create this page".

Or you can use this direct link:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit

> should I create a second one for "drinking_water:refill:network"

You can include it on the main tag page if that is easier.

But if you have time it is fine to make a specific page:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill:network&action=edit

To make the page, try copying the source text from a similar property
page, and pasting it,

For example copy the text from:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water&action=edit

Then edit it to match your new proposal.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 2/26/20, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going
> to amend the final voted tag pair to :
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
> Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I
> would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.
>
> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was
> voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water
>
> 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second
> one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page
> ?)
>
> 3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can come
> after completion of 1 + 2.
> - Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of
> the feature template.
> - Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using
> Template:Approved
> feature link
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
> - Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the
>> tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.
>>
>> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>>
>>
>> instead of :
>>
>> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>> drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;
>>
>> Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small
>> change ?  I don't mind.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Stuart
>>
>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Again,
>>>
>>> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it
>>> is
>>> worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace
>>> and
>>> use the word network.
>>>
>>> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
>>> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
>>> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word
>>> "network"
>>> clearer than "scheme".
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
>>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
>>>> water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
>>>> passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that
>>>> to
>>>> be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
>>>> evident so that the tag is verifiable.
>>>>
>>>> The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
>>>> preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons -
>>>> which
>>>> is common with other tags.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - drinking_water:refill
>>>>
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>>    =yes
>>>>
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dyes&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>>    /drinking_water:refill
>>>>
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>>    =no
>>>>
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>>    - drinking_water:refill_scheme
>>>>
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill_scheme&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>>    =scheme-name
>>>>
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>>    1; scheme-name
>>>>
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>>>    2;scheme-name3;
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can someone please guide me on next steps ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - Create the permanent feature description page:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    - A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant map
>>>> features
>>>>    template
>>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template>
>>>> (depending
>>>>    on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied.
>>>> Follow
>>>>    the standard set by the Key:highway
>>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway> key and its
>>>> values.
>>>>    - Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink*
>>>> parameter
>>>>    of the feature template.
>>>>    - Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page
>>>>    using Template:Approved feature link
>>>>
>>>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
>>>>    - Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
>>>>    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Stuart
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <
>>>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Joseph,
>>>>>
>>>>> Understood.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the
>>>>> vote finishes tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <
>>>>> joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Joseph Eisenberg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/17/20, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive
>>>>>> support ..
>>>>>> > 10 + and 2 Abs
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > There are two comments which are worth noting :
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited
>>>>>> scheme
>>>>>> > names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple.
>>>>>> > Untess
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> > are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final
>>>>>> vote to
>>>>>> > take this into consideration.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2. Kovposch
>>>>>> > <
>>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > suggested
>>>>>> > making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to
>>>>>> refill:network.
>>>>>> > Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> > generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to
>>>>>> > just
>>>>>> > change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Best regards,
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Stuart
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
>>>>>> > europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> Hi Martin,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill
>>>>>> >> for
>>>>>> >> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Best regards,
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Stuart
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer
>>>>>> >> <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project
>>>>>> >>> <
>>>>>> >>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively
>>>>>> >>>> map
>>>>>> >>>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone
>>>>>> (ie
>>>>>> >>>> paying
>>>>>> >>>> or non-paying customer).
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a
>>>>>> >>> "drinking
>>>>>> >>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more
>>>>>> >>> explanation.
>>>>>> >>> Like in the linked photo above:
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Cheers
>>>>>> >>> Martin
>>>>>> >>>
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