[Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

Florimond Berthoux florimond.berthoux at gmail.com
Thu Jan 9 20:35:02 UTC 2020


Ok, you need examples :
this Eurovelo 3 is for tourism
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/9351172#map=12/48.8454/2.4130&layers=C
this REVe Nord-Sud is for commute/every day cycling
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8664006#map=14/48.8784/2.3599&layers=C
as you can see in this video https://youtu.be/1dGtSZbUKew
and this is for road cycling
https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/163270#map=15/48.8577/2.2333&layers=C
as you can see in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLwNlVjTOKU

mtb:scale / surfaces tags are for ways not relation.

Of course nobody will blame you if you use a touristic route for commuting,
and adding a tag tourism=yes doesn’t imply it can’t be used by every day
cyclists.

What the point? If you are a commuter you’ll focus on fast and safe route,
so you’ll prefer REVe Nord-Sud than Eurovelo 3 at this place
https://www.cyclosm.org/#map=18/48.86796/2.35391/cyclosm
For instance, this information can be used for rendering map (like CyclOSM
on which I work) or routers (a tourist profile routing will prefer tourism
route).

Le jeu. 9 janv. 2020 à 16:10, Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> a écrit :

> waymarked mtb routes are tagged route=mtb on the relation
> waymarked cycling routes are tagged route=bicycle on the relation.
>
> I don't know how I could verify that a cycling route is either touristic
> or for commute/everyday cycling or both. Even if advertised as touristic it
> can be used for commute/everyday cycling, ande the other way around.
> I do not foresee significant mapping of these purposes.
>
> Best, Peter Elderson
>
>
> Op do 9 jan. 2020 om 15:08 schreef Martin Koppenhoefer <
> dieterdreist at gmail.com>:
>
>> Am Do., 9. Jan. 2020 um 10:41 Uhr schrieb Florimond Berthoux <
>> florimond.berthoux at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> tourism=yes : if the cycle route is a touristic purpose route
>>> commute=yes : if it's a route for commute and every day cycling
>>>
>>
>>
>> where do you get this information from? Is it verifiable?
>>
>>
>>
>>> road_bike=yes : if it's a route to do road biking sport
>>> mtb=yes : if it's a cycle route mtb oriented
>>>
>>
>>
>> to some extent the mtb=yes tag this is already covered (in greater
>> detail) by presence of mtb:scale tags
>> maybe it could be extended for road_bike as well (e.g. mtb:scale=-1).
>> Also smoothness could help.
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mtb:scale
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness
>>
>> Cheers
>> Martin
>>
>>
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