[Tagging] amenity=tourist_bus_parking

John Willis johnw at mac.com
Tue Jan 14 00:34:31 UTC 2020

To me, there are a few requirements of “designated” parking lots: 

1)  it is signed as such: "Cars go here and HGV go there” , “cars, right” and “HGV, left”, directing you to different lots. Lots are labeled on signage telling which vehicle types to go where (cars/HGV/motorcycle/ + disabled).

2) it is designed with the vehicle in mind: Spaces are painted for the size of expected vehicle. The lanes are wider and turning radius of the turns are meant for larger vehicles in HGV lots. This is easily visible on imagery. 

3) It offers Amenities for the specific Vehicles: Very large wheel-stops for HGV, or parking spaces where backing out is not necessary for HGV. There might also be amenities for bus passengers (since the buses often have to park further away from the location), such as additional Toilets & vending machines far away from the main location, but adjacent to the bus parking area.

4) It is human enforced: When there is a large amount of traffic, people directing traffic enforce these rules. While they may choose to break their own rules to manage the spaces in an efficient way, it is not up to the driver to do so. People direct the cars & HGVs to the correct lots during busy days. This might also mean gate or cone barriers that are moved by employees when they are needed (common with disabled & bus lots in busy places in Japan).

5) People are advised to follow thew rules with additional signs & notices around the location you are visiting: there are signs saying not to park your car in the HGV spaces (or in the disabled spaces or the loading zones). Official signage (seen in restrooms and posters all over the service area) from the Tollway operator NEXCO regarding parking in the bus parking: https://www.driveplaza.com/special/mannerty/library/img/img_001_016.gif <https://www.driveplaza.com/special/mannerty/library/img/img_001_016.gif>
Of course, this is represented by the “Rude Shark” and the “Mannerty the manatee” in the “Heartful Highway” signage all over the tollway here. 
https://www.driveplaza.com/special/mannerty/library/index.html <https://www.driveplaza.com/special/mannerty/library/index.html>
check them out, you don’t need to read Japanese to enjoy them. 

6) police enforcement / Legal enforcement: I am not aware of anyone getting their car towed or getting a parking ticket in anywhere in Japan *ever*, because there is little to no such police enforcement anywhere in Japan for parking rules/laws via towing/citations (unlike America). Expecting this to be tow-enforced / ticketed is not a reasonable threshold, because there is basically no tow-enforcement / ticketing for almost any parking laws anywhere in Japan. 

My lots meet 5 of these “requirements", but I would say if you meet the first 2 (signed + painted for the vehicle type), it is "designated". This is the threshold for motorcycle parking and disabled parking as well most everywhere else.


> On Jan 6, 2020, at 2:39 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
> is “designated” implying that other vehicles cannot (legally or physically?) use the parking, or that there are specific measures so that the designated vehicles fit perfectly into the fixtures?
> Cheers Martin 
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