[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

Markus Peloso mar.pel at outlook.com
Tue Jan 21 08:42:47 UTC 2020


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in the sense of free sharing.

Hi

Thanks for the discussion, inputs and improvement to this tag.

I request for voting now.

Feel free to give also a negative answer if you only don’t like the name. Then please write in the comments what name you prefer. Based on the result I will made a second vote with a new name. Other suggested names are:
    • amenity=free_box
    • amenity=free_goods
    • amenity=give_take_box
    • shop=freeshop

Best regards,
Markus

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar.pel at outlook.com>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2020 21:26
An: tagging at openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in the sense of free sharing.

Hi

Thank you for your inputs to improve this documentation and make it easy to understand what this tag is all about. I have removed all references and notes to give away shops, because those are not helpful for a clear specification of this tag.

Thanks for the hint with the hiker boxes and the other type of boxes. Good to see that there are similar projects all over the world. I have included a section with suggestions on how this boxtypes could be handled with existing tags (the goods tag is already taken). I want this tag to be more specific then the reuse tag. I do not want to cover all existing variations with it. IMO someone like food boxes for example deserve their own tag.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar.pel at outlook.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Januar 2020 13:04
An: tagging at openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: AW: Feature Proposal - RFC - give box

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the sense of free sharing.

Many thanks for your helpful Feedback and your support. :D

I have updated the proposed.

I like the idea of using the shop=charity icon. Maybe the icon could be a combination of the shop=charity icon and the shop=gift icon.

I change the tag name to give_box. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box
Because the name Givebox is used by a website that provides fundraising tools.

The naming was the difficult part. Why am I for give_box:

+ Give box is already a known concept in Europa with a big community.
+ I think "gift box" would be a very good name to describes the idea of this facility. As a self organized solidarity space of free giving/donating and free taking/reusing. The name "Give box" is similar.
+ Give box is not overused for other things found in the internet, eg. internet modems.

"reuse" is to generic, eg. someone can tag a fridge with amenity=reuse and reuse=fridge, to document a place to share food. But I think this kind of facility deserves its own tag.
I think the tag "reuse" is currently only used because there is no other tag for this kind of facility.

Give boxes are some kind of public storage room/space in the sense of giving and reuse. I think the "free store" (German "Umsonstladen") in Germany is more a give box as a store. As I read, even the shelf's in the "free store" ("Umsonstladen") are brought by the community, that's more something like a public storage room. In a store I would except employees who eg. place the items on the shelves. That's way a give box is not a shop=charity or shop=second_hand. The idea and organization behind a "free store" (German "Umsonstladen") and "Give box" are the same, they differ only in the storage space size. A shack can also be named as a store. This makes a clear distinction difficult. As abstraction for OSM, I think we can use the same tag.

free_box would be my second choice. I would like to solve it democratically. In two weeks I would like to vote on give_box. If you prefer free_box then vote against it and write it in the comment of the vote. Then I change it and do a second vote for free_box.

Von: Markus Peloso<mailto:mar.pel at outlook.com>
Gesendet: Montag, 6. Januar 2020 23:41
An: tagging at openstreetmap.org<mailto:tagging at openstreetmap.org>
Betreff: Feature Proposal - RFC - Givebox

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Givebox

A facility where people drop off and pick up various types of goods in the sense of free sharing.

Hi

Based on the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse and the  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dpublic_bookcase tag I describe a tag for facilities similar to public bookcases but with all kinds of (none food) goods.





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