[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

[European Water Project]

Dear All,

A comment by Andy Mabbett
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing> was made that it
would be cleaner and less confusing to have a simpler main tag. I think he
is right.

I know we just started voting, but given this suggestion which I prefer to
the one we are voting on currently, I have put the proposal back to the RFC
stage for another week.

Andy suggests :

"drinking_water:refill=yes" and "drinking_water:refill_scheme=[scheme-name]"


As long as two of the options for "scheme-name" can be "multiple" or "yes",
this alternative two tagging method seems more KISS than the one being
currently voted on-

Best regards,

Stuart



On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 14:57, European Water Project <
europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Martin,
>
> A refill scheme is a cafe, bar, restaurant, club, hotel participating in
> one of the many refill schemes where they agree to fill up anybody's water
> bottle for free without any requirement to consume on the premises.    Self
> serve is not a requirement.  A sticker or sign must be shown for an
> establishment to be tagged as part of the refill scheme and just because a
> barman fills up your bottle, one shouldn't tag a bar as part of a refill
> scheme. Nor should an establishment be tagged as part of a refill scheme if
> you need to fill your bottle up in the bathroom.
>
>   There are  more small ones in the US and in specific European cities,
> like Lucerne, Lausanne, and Berkeley. European Water Project will be
> contributing to the creation of a 100% open data collaborative database of
> establishments participating in the refill revolution.
>
> best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
> Here is a list of some of the participating schemes globally.
>
>
>    - Australia – ChooseTap <http://choosetap.com.au/>
>    - Bulgaria – Zero Waste Sofia <http://zerowastesofia.com/watermap/>
>    - Cambodia – Refill Asia <https://refillasia.com/> / RefillMyBottle
>    <https://refillmybottle.com/>
>    - Canada – BlueW.org <http://www.bluew.org/>; Tap
>    <https://findtap.com/>
>    - Chile – Refill <https://refill.org.uk/> (Santiago de Chile only)
>    - Europe (public fountains) – Mapy.cz
>    <https://de.mapy.cz/zakladni?x=14.6255315&y=49.6750759&z=8&q=pitn%C3%A1%20voda&cat=1>
>    - France – Refill <https://refill.org.uk/> / EU Touring
>    <https://www.eutouring.com/map_drinking_water_fountains_paris.html>(Paris
>    only)
>    - Germany – Refill Deutschland <https://refill-deutschland.de/>
>    - Greece –Refill <https://refill.org.uk/>
>    - Hongkong – Water for Free <https://waterforfree.org/en/>
>    - India – BluHop  <https://www.bluhop.com/>
>    - Indonesia – Refill Asia <https://refillasia.com/> / RefillMyBottle
>    <https://refillmybottle.com/>
>    - Ireland – Refill Ireland
>    <https://www.refill.ie/tap-map?fbclid=IwAR0LSSvAXeohvU44mxfoEXVcTRMCT207hu3cHaFPHsruT7kQqBTSY3oN1x4>
>    - Italy – Refill <https://refill.org.uk/> / Refill Elba
>    <https://refillelba.com/?fbclid=IwAR0bsAap5Zn5uDbiZJomjhevU2mcI5rog5WTdUZXUMwxj-VZU6NTamSwCmQ> (Elba
>    island only)
>    - Japan – MyMizu <https://www.mymizu.co/>
>    - Laos – Refill Asia <https://refillasia.com/> / RefillMyBottle
>    <https://refillmybottle.com/>
>    - Luxemborg –Refill <https://refill.org.uk/>
>    - Switzerland – FILL IT UP
>    <http://fillitup.ch/karte.html?fbclid=IwAR0LLkykOD92K24dgHllJtcBconZBYkM9CfrItwK4TLU7xDmdXJnRnlb-n8>
>    - The Netherlands – Refill  <https://refill.org.uk/>/ Drinkwaterkaart
>    <https://drinkwaterkaart.nl/> / Publiek Water
>    <http://refillambassadors.com/publiek-water/>
>    - New Zealand – RefillNZ <https://refillnz.org.nz/where/>
>    - Thailand – Refill Asia <https://refillasia.com/> / RefillMyBottle
>    <https://refillmybottle.com/>
>    - U.K. – Refill <https://refill.org.uk/>
>    - United States – Tap <https://findtap.com/>
>    - Vietnam – Refill Asia <https://refillasia.com/> / RefillMyBottle
>    <https://refillmybottle.com/>
>    - Worldwide – Closca <https://closca.com/pages/closca-water-app>
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 12:40, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Dear Warin,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your email, I have added a voting section and put my vote
>>> in :)  I appreciate your advice.
>>>
>>> We debated for a week before I wrote the RFC proposal and I have
>>> received 2 positive thumbs up via email, so I therefore have just extended
>>> the voting period.      ..  but of course, I will extend the RFC period if
>>> needed if alternatives are proposed.
>>>
>>> Here is the link to the overal proposal :
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water
>>>
>>>
>>> And an amended link with a link directly to the voting section :
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Free_Water&veaction=edit&section=10#Voting
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your consideration,
>>>
>>
>>
>> I am not a native speaker and not completely sure about the meaning of
>> the term "refill scheme". Would you say it applies to an icecream parlour
>> (self service, seats and takeaway) that has a water tap at a pillar in the
>> middle of the room, publicly accessible for everyone (supposedly while the
>> intention is probably mainly for customers, realistically I would say
>> "permissive")?
>>
>> Here's a picture:
>> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
>>
>> Cheers
>> Martin
>>
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