[Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?

Jarek PiĆ³rkowski jarek at piorkowski.ca
Wed Jan 29 01:07:18 UTC 2020


On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 19:55, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
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> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 6:51 PM Jarek PiĆ³rkowski <jarek at piorkowski.ca> wrote:
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>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 at 19:45, Paul Johnson <baloo at ursamundi.org> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 6:14 PM Yaro Shkvorets <shkvorets at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> That passage should be rewritten. That's certainly not the common practice.
>> >> I personally tag `highway=cycleway` where bikes significantly outnumber foot traffic, `highway=footway` where foot traffic significantly outnumbers bikes, `highway=path` for the rest.
>> >> If you need to explicitly disallow bikes or foot you use access tags.
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>> > This seems a little iffy.  I mean, footway is obvious, is it designed for people on foot, and too narrow for oncoming bikes to meet?  Footway.  City sidewalk?  Footway.  A path through a park?  Probably a path (especially if it's multiuse), unless it's really narrow, then footway.  Has lanes but isn't a street?  Cycleway.
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>> Around Toronto I've generally seen (and also tagged myself), for
>> routes through a park, footway if it's paved or otherwise major, path
>> if it's unpaved or overgrown or status uncertain. So I interpret
>> highway=footway to be "higher grade" than highway=path - the opposite
>> of your interpretation, I fear...
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> Not higher grade, just not as specialized in its design purpose and what other use modes will not find their needs particularly addressed if it's allowed at all.  In a venn diagram of bridleway, cycleway and footway, path is in the middle.

Hm, that's not how I think about it. In my mental map: bridleway
doesn't exist (as a big-city mapper); path is something for people but
nothing major; footway is usually paved with a lot of pedestrians on
it and if not a sidewalk maybe bikes but not majority; cycleway is
usually paved with relatively a lot of bicycles on it (can be unpaved
if out in nature).

I see now that wiki disagrees, I'll try to adjust my mapping
accordingly... JOSM's rendering of footway as solid line and path as
dashed doesn't help.

--Jarek



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