[Tagging] How to tag a graffiti?

Jarek PiĆ³rkowski jarek at piorkowski.ca
Thu Jul 2 14:09:08 UTC 2020

On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 09:26, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2020 at 14:05, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> wrote:
>> a monument is an object that you can go into, you cannot enter a graffiti so in any case this is not a monument for OpenStreetMap.
> From the wiki: "A memorial object, which is especially large (one can go inside,
> walk on or through it) or high enough..."  Those are alternative criteria, not
> components of a single criterion.  Although it might (just) be high enough,
> that wall was not constructed as part of the memorial.  But if it had been
> constructed as part of the memorial, it might (just) qualify as a monument.
> Now that I think about it, is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:First_World_war_memorial_-_geograph.org.uk_-_535659.jpg
> a monument or a memorial?  To give an idea of scale, that grey rectangle
> to its right, near a tree, is a phone box.  It's tagged as a memorial,
> but maybe it's high enough to be a monument.

If we are making a distinction, to me, that's definitely a memorial.
It's not monumental in scale. Even the plain two-story buildings
around it are taller.

If this was a monument, what would we consider a much taller sculpture
like https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gdynia_Pomnik_Ofiar_Grudnia_1970_w_Gdyni_przy_al._Pi%C5%82sudskiego1.jpg
(https://osm.org/node/4353704772)? Of course we can tag the height
instead, but if we _are_ making a distinction, then the former is much
less monumental.

In retrospect, the monument/memorial distinction was probably a bad
idea - I see a lot of small memorials (like life-size statues) around
Toronto tagged as monuments, because editors think of them as
"monuments to history" or "historical monuments". Just an unclear
distinction that apparently only serves rendering at different zoom


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