[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - shop=bubble_tea

Phake Nick c933103 at gmail.com
Fri Jul 3 19:14:24 UTC 2020


在 2020年7月3日週五 22:32,Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> 寫道:

> On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > description=* might be a better way of dealing with it (if the name of
>> the
>> place doesn't give it away).
>>
>> No, that is a bad idea. The "description" field does not provide
>> consistent data. It is always preferable to use a new, more specific tag.
>>
>
> Description is a very good idea if you think that mapping things down to
> that
> level of detail is silly.  If it concentrates on 79 flavours of coffee with
> 200 different toppings but also sells one type of tea, map just
> drink:coffee=yes.  If you want people to know they can also get a bad
> cup of tea there, with absolutely no choice, the description is fine.
>
> The problem with a tag to specify what kind of drink it focuses on
> is that it breaks when the place focuses on two types of drink.  What
> if there is an incredible variety of teas and coffees but only one
> flavour of juice?  What if there are a lot of coffees and a lot of
> juices but the tea comes from the cheapest tea bags
> available that have long passed their shelf life?
>
> So now we need a tag that can handle multiple foci.  OK,
> semicolon-delimited list.  But now it turns out that they
> do a lot of types of coffee, a lot of types of tea, five flavours
> of juice but only one flavour of carbonated drink?  So now we
> need a tag for an intermediate-level of focus.
>
> Ah, but some of the coffee is good coffee but some of it is bad
> coffee.  So now we need to tag the individual flavours of coffee
> so we can specify a quality rating for them.
>
> This is getting very silly.
>
> Do they sell coffee?  Yes or no.  Do they sell tea?  Yes or no.  Do they
> sell juice?  Yes or no.  Are there are large range of coffees?  Goes in
> the description.
>
> I don't mind micromapping, but I draw the line at picomapping.
>
> --
> Paul
>
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在 2020年7月3日週五 22:32,Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> 寫道:

> On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > description=* might be a better way of dealing with it (if the name of
>> the
>> place doesn't give it away).
>>
>> No, that is a bad idea. The "description" field does not provide
>> consistent data. It is always preferable to use a new, more specific tag.
>>
>
> Description is a very good idea if you think that mapping things down to
> that
> level of detail is silly.  If it concentrates on 79 flavours of coffee with
> 200 different toppings but also sells one type of tea, map just
> drink:coffee=yes.  If you want people to know they can also get a bad
> cup of tea there, with absolutely no choice, the description is fine.
>
> The problem with a tag to specify what kind of drink it focuses on
> is that it breaks when the place focuses on two types of drink.  What
> if there is an incredible variety of teas and coffees but only one
> flavour of juice?  What if there are a lot of coffees and a lot of
> juices but the tea comes from the cheapest tea bags
> available that have long passed their shelf life?
>
> So now we need a tag that can handle multiple foci.  OK,
> semicolon-delimited list.  But now it turns out that they
> do a lot of types of coffee, a lot of types of tea, five flavours
> of juice but only one flavour of carbonated drink?  So now we
> need a tag for an intermediate-level of focus.
>
> Ah, but some of the coffee is good coffee but some of it is bad
> coffee.  So now we need to tag the individual flavours of coffee
> so we can specify a quality rating for them.
>
> This is getting very silly.
>
> Do they sell coffee?  Yes or no.  Do they sell tea?  Yes or no.  Do they
> sell juice?  Yes or no.  Are there are large range of coffees?  Goes in
> the description.
>
> I don't mind micromapping, but I draw the line at picomapping.
>
> --
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tagging mailing list
> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
>


在 2020年7月3日週五 22:32,Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> 寫道:

> On Fri, 3 Jul 2020 at 14:43, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > description=* might be a better way of dealing with it (if the name of
>> the
>> place doesn't give it away).
>>
>> No, that is a bad idea. The "description" field does not provide
>> consistent data. It is always preferable to use a new, more specific tag.
>>
>
> Description is a very good idea if you think that mapping things down to
> that
> level of detail is silly.  If it concentrates on 79 flavours of coffee with
> 200 different toppings but also sells one type of tea, map just
> drink:coffee=yes.  If you want people to know they can also get a bad
> cup of tea there, with absolutely no choice, the description is fine.
>
> The problem with a tag to specify what kind of drink it focuses on
> is that it breaks when the place focuses on two types of drink.  What
> if there is an incredible variety of teas and coffees but only one
> flavour of juice?  What if there are a lot of coffees and a lot of
> juices but the tea comes from the cheapest tea bags
> available that have long passed their shelf life?
>
> So now we need a tag that can handle multiple foci.  OK,
> semicolon-delimited list.  But now it turns out that they
> do a lot of types of coffee, a lot of types of tea, five flavours
> of juice but only one flavour of carbonated drink?  So now we
> need a tag for an intermediate-level of focus.
>
> Ah, but some of the coffee is good coffee but some of it is bad
> coffee.  So now we need to tag the individual flavours of coffee
> so we can specify a quality rating for them.
>
> This is getting very silly.
>
> Do they sell coffee?  Yes or no.  Do they sell tea?  Yes or no.  Do they
> sell juice?  Yes or no.  Are there are large range of coffees?  Goes in
> the description.
>
> I don't mind micromapping, but I draw the line at picomapping.
>
> --
> Paul
>
> _______________________________________________
> Tagging mailing list
> Tagging at openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging


Saying bubble tea is "pico mapping" drinks is the same as saying mapping a
cuisine=pizza is "pico mapping" bakery
Please understand OpenStreetMaps is a world project and some feature, as
well as distinction among them, are more prevalence in some regions than
others.

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