[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (Ground)

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 13:59:57 UTC 2020

I think bare_soil or barren_soil are ok values for bare/barren soil.

I am convinced that these areas exist, bare soil without spontaneous
vegetation, whatever causes it to remain bare for many years.

Barren sounds to me to imply nothing can grow there.Bare sounds more
neutral and factual to me, it just says there is nothing but bare soil to
mark the area with.Please correct if I am wrong!

My preference would be the direct and factual *=bare_soil

The key does not really matter as long as it's not landuse, because it is
not a use of the land.
landcover=bare_soil sounds right to me.
natural=bare_soil might exclude areas which are bare because of human
causes. But it fits in with natural=bare_rock, and it is a sort of
null-option for vegetation from rain forest through grassy plains to
nothing growing there.
surface=bare_soil is not bad, but surface is generally used as an
additional key for a main feature, not a feature in itself.

Since soil is positively what you see, I don't think it's just negatively
defined. It's soil, with an important visible characteristic that it is
bare. Soil with vegatation has its own tags, but the absence of such a tag
does not indicate that it is bare soil.

All in all, I think natural=bare_soil is the best option, and that it fills
an important gap in the mapping of Earth's surface.

Question: How sure can you be from satellite imagery or aerial photography
that an area is actually bare soil?

Best, Peter Elderson

Op vr 10 jul. 2020 om 15:10 schreef Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <
tagging at openstreetmap.org>:

> Jul 10, 2020, 15:04 by pla16021 at gmail.com:
> I've just realized what prompted the back of my mind into writing the
> preceding paragraph.  landcover=barren (or natural=barren) seems
> to handle things nicely without worrying about soil/clay/humus
> distinctions.
> barren is horrible as it can be easily interpreted as including also paved
> surfaces,
> bare rock, areas with poor plant growth and many other cases
> as not a native speaker - natural=barren_soil seems more reasonable
> and harder to misinterpret
> (that specific combination may be horrible for grammar reasons,
> I am not a native speaker)
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