[Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Thu Jul 23 21:34:42 UTC 2020


Vr gr Peter Elderson

Op do 23 jul. 2020 om 23:32 schreef Mike Thompson <miketho16 at gmail.com>:

> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 2:34 PM Matthew Woehlke <mwoehlke.floss at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > ...but then your horse is a passenger in a vehicle. Otherwise that would
> > be like saying a human can't ride in a vehicle if foot=no.
> Exactly, foot=no doesn't mean that feet are not allowed, it means that
> using a mode of transportation that primarily uses feet  ("foot
> travel"/walking/running/hiking) isn't allowed.
> bicycle=no is consistent with this, it doesn't mean that bicycles are
> prohibited, it means that a mode of transportation, (bicycle riding) is
> prohibited.
> horse=no is apparently a  little different as you point out.  It seems to
> refer not just to a mode of transportation, but to the possession of the
> animal in general.  It is similar to dog=no. dog=no doesn't refer to
> whether you can use a dog as a mode of transportation, it means you can't
> possess a dog at all on the given way (even if you carry it).
> >
> > For similar reasons, I would assume that a way that allows vehicles but
> > not pushed bicycles allows a bicycle *in* a vehicle.
> Right, because it is no longer the mode of transportation.
> > FWIW, I'm sympathetic to the "no means no" camp and just declaring that
> > if you really meant "dismount", *fix it*.
> well, "no does mean no", it means "no bicycle riding", it means, no using
> a bicycle as a mode of transportation. It doesn't say anything about
> possessing a bicycle in general, or using it in another manner (pushing,
> carrying)
> "dismount" is not the complete solution, because, as the original question
> implied, sometimes it is also illegal to carry a bicycle (although I have
> never seen that), and as someone else pointed out, sometimes it is illegal
> to even possess a bicycle at all, such as in a US Wilderness Area.
> Mike
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