[Tagging] Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?

[António Madeira]

I agree that the wiki should be consistent on the use of these two ways
of mapping a highway crossing.

Personally, I always use highway=crossing on nodes and only
footway=crossing when I can connect the point to a pedestrian feature
for routing purposes.


Às 12:44 de 10/06/2020, Jack Armstrong escreveu:
> Thank you, Andrew,
>
> According to the "Sidewalk as a separate way" proposal, which was
> approved in 2011,
>
> When a highway=crossing node is present on the main road, a way
> connecting the sidewalks on the two sides of the road should be
> mapped. Not to override the well-established meaning of
> highway=crossing, this way should be tagged as follows:
> highway=footway
> footway=crossing
>
> However, the OSM wiki “tag:highway=crossing” directly contradicts this;
>
> To map a pedestrian crossing, place a node within the way representing
> the road, and set this highway=crossing tag on the node…
> footway=crossing and cycleway=crossing are sometimes used on ways
> which lead from a sidewalk to the crossing node (the node which has
> this highway=crossing tag). *This is not the preferred way of tagging.*
>
> Is this a simple case of information not being transferred from the
> approved proposal to the wiki?
>
> I have no preference on how a pedestrian crossing is mapped, but I am
> keen for the wiki to reflect accurate information. If we are following
> the approved proposal "Sidewalk as a separate way”, does anyone have
> objection to the wiki being changed to reflect this?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Jack Armstrong
>     Sent: Jun 9, 2020 8:03 PM
>     To: tagging at openstreetmap.org
>     Subject: Do we map pedestrian crossings twice?
>
>     Apologies if this has already been discussed. I searched the
>     tagging list, but couldn’t find it.
>
>
>     Users have been adding pedestrian crossing tags on ways in
>     addition to the street connecting nodes. In effect, a single
>     pedestrian crossing is tagged twice. To me, this would seem
>     contrary not only to the OSM wiki page, “Tag:highway=crossing”,
>     but also contrary to, “One feature, one OSM element”.
>
>
>     Example:
>
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?changeset=86290585#map=20/39.63167/-104.89726
>
>
>     I’ve been told by a user, anecdotally, there’s a Slack group that
>     decided this is correct. To my knowledge Slack groups do not
>     supersede the OSM wiki. I assume mapping a crossing twice is
>     incorrect?
>
>
>     OSM wiki: tag:highway=crossing
>
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcrossing
>
>
>
>     - Jack Armstrong
>
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