[Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

Volker Schmidt voschix at gmail.com
Thu Jun 18 19:56:37 UTC 2020

I know several bicycle route segments on water: ferryboat, waterbus,
private on-demand boat.
On rail: One route contained a normal rail segment.
By Bus: scheduled buses on road segments with heavy traffic.
We should consider these other means as well in any proposal.

On Thu, 18 Jun 2020, 20:32 Francesco Ansanelli, <francians at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
> I discussed with local mappers about the need of a role "take_train" or
> "public_transport" to fix bicycle routes...
> Would anybody be so kind to make a proposal about this post?
> Many thanks
> Cheers
> Francesco
> Il giorno lun 16 dic 2019 alle ore 13:49 Francesco Ansanelli <
> francians at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> Il lun 16 dic 2019, 10:56 Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>>> On 16/12/19 20:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>> Am Mo., 16. Dez. 2019 um 10:02 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt <
>>> voschix at gmail.com>:
>>>> Can we come back to talking about a solution.
>>>> Maybe an appropriate new role value could be a solution:
>>>> role=take_train on the corresponding train section in the bicycle route,
>>>> for example.
>>>> However, this would provide an easy way to add train ride details.
>>> I would add the train route relation as member, rather than the
>>> individual railway ways.
>>> If the entire train route is used then ok. But if only a section is used
>>> then I think the relevant ways only should be included.
>>> If a simple dataconsumer is not aware, it would should a hole in the
>>> bicycle relation (what IMHO is a good way to show that there is something
>>> special, in particular that you cannot simply ride your bike there), while
>>> a data consumer who specifically understands the situation could give
>>> specific directions. I agree a specific role also seems reasonable (could
>>> be extended to ferries, trams, aerialways, etc.)
>>> role=take_train would not work for ferries, buses, canoes etc.
>>> I think role=transport could work .. provided the way identifies what
>>> form of transport is used ... that could be a problem for bus routes?
>>> role=transport_train/transport_bus???
>> I agree with the 'transport' name, it's the same I was thinking too...
>> Also 'transport_relation' could be fine.
>> Since you are adding a relation as segment you will get the type of
>> relation from it.
>> At this point I'd remove all information from the rail, do a relation
>> ptv2 and add that to my route.
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