[Tagging] "Feature Proposal - RFC - Qanat"
pla16021 at gmail.com
Sat Jun 20 13:46:15 UTC 2020
Grrrr. The keyboard on this laptop is annoying. To finish an unfinished
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 14:40, Paul Allen <pla16021 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 14:31, Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de> wrote:
>> > loan words. Qanat IS a word that appears in English dictionaries and
>> it IS
>> > the British English name for such structures.
>> That might be the case here - but only because English speakers have
>> started communicating about this kind of thing using that term quite a long
>> time ago. This is not the case for elements of the geography outside of
>> English speaking countries that English speakers have no broad awareness of
>> (of which there are plenty).
> Yeah, but Britain imposed its imperial colonialism upon much of the world,
> we've been using local words for a lot of geographical features for a long
> As for terms we don't already know, the tendency in English would be to
> the local word if we found a need to refer to it.
> A bigger problem, I think, is a tendency
... for us to force round pegs into square holes. It's not just that the
give it a different name, it is actually different. Like insisting that a
just an underground canal.
> We should definitely map things that do not physically occur in
>> > English-speaking parts of the world. But we should use the British
>> > name (which may or may not have been derived from the local name) to tag
>> > them.
>> That would mean giving up on the goal of creating the best map of the
>> world through collection of local knowledge of the geography and replacing
>> it with the goal of creating a map of the world as it is perceived my
>> English speakers.
Erm, nope, I didn't say that. I said that if British English has a name
then we should use it. I didn't say that we should force square pegs into
round holes. To me it isn't whether it's called a qanat or an
(as it might be named in some languages) but what it actually is. A qanat
more than just an underground canal whatever we call it, and deserves to be
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