[Tagging] Are rowboats covered by "boat=*" or "canoe=*"?

Peter Elderson pelderson at gmail.com
Tue Jun 23 12:44:54 UTC 2020


Networks for canoes use network=lpn|rpn|npn|rpn where p stands for
paddling.
Hm, I fear that only complicates the matter...

Vr gr Peter Elderson


Op di 23 jun. 2020 om 14:05 schreef Niels Elgaard Larsen <elgaard at agol.dk>:

> Joseph Eisenberg:
> > The wiki page Key:boat <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:boat>
> says that tag
> > is to specify
> >
> > "Legal access restriction for boats. In the sense of OSM these are small
> boats and
> > pleasure crafts, including yachts."
> >
> > The picture shows a "no rowboats" sign: File:A.16_Fahrverbot.svg
> > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:A.16_Fahrverbot.svg>
> >
> > But there is also a key canoe=* - the page Key:canoe
> > <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:canoe> says:
> >
> > "Legal access restriction for boats without a motor or a sail like
> canoes, kajaks or
> > rowboats."
> >
> > I can see how canoes and kayaks are basically the same, since both are
> narrow boats
> > that usually carry 1 or 2 people and are propelled by paddles.
>
> And Stand Up Paddle?
>
> > But should rowboat access restrictions be under this key
> canoe=yes/no/designated, or
> > are they under boat=yes/no/designated - or something else?
>
> rowboats are not canoes.
> We are missing a more generic term.
> In the international rules it is "vessels under oars"
>
> I checked the tags in Denmark.
>
> Gudenåen and Skjern Å has canoe=permissive. But rowboats are also allowed
> (I have
> rowed on Gudenåen several times).
>
> Tåning Å has boat=yes, canoe=yes, motorboat=no
>
> There was also a floating pier tagged with canoe=yes.
> And that is probably not for rowboats. Clubs typically have different
> piers for
> rowboats and kayaks.
>
> I would say that we could have both "canoe" and "rowboat" and that both
> canoe and
> rowboat are also boat, just as e.g., hgv is also motor_vehicle.
>
> rowboats should not be canoes.
> In particular canoe=portage and canoe=put_in is wrong for rowing boats.
>
> Rowing clubs:
> https://agol.dk/elgaard/roklubber.html
>
> --
> Niels Elgaard Larsen
>
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