[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

European Water Project europeanwaterproject at gmail.com
Tue Mar 3 13:57:06 UTC 2020


Dear Markus,

Done. I had a bit of hesitation there ... copying over the whole proposal
.. but now I see how the permanent link works to the last version of the
voted proposal.

Thank you for your help with this step.

Best regards,

Stuart

On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 20:46, Markus Peloso <mar.pel at outlook.com> wrote:

> Hello
>
>
>
> For step 3.
>
> Replace the entire content/source from the «Proposed features/Free Water»
> with this snippet:
>
> «
>
> {{Approved feature link|link=Key:drinking_water:refill|name=Free Water}}
>
> {{Archived proposal|archive_id=1962961}}
>
> »
>
> The archive_id comes from the «View history» page by clicking the last /
> newest entry and coping the value from the oldid parameter in the url.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Markus
>
>
>
> *Von: *European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>
> *Gesendet: *Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 12:15
> *An: *Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
> <tagging at openstreetmap.org>
> *Betreff: *Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting -
> drinking_water:refill_scheme
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> Since no one has manifested an objection (still not too late), I am going
> to amend the final voted tag pair to :
>
>
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
>
>
> Can someone please guide me on the below.  I appreciate your advice.  I
> would like to complete all tasks associated with this tag implementation.
>
>
>
> 1. How do I change the name of the proposal page to better match what was
> voted ?... The page name corresponds to the one of the first interactions.
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Free_Water
>
>
>
> 2. How do I create the permanent feature page ? (should I create a second
> one for "drinking_water:refill:network" or include it on the primary page
> ?)
>
>
>
> 3.  I will need guidance on the next three steps as well, but this can
> come after completion of 1 + 2.
>
> ·  Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter of
> the feature template.
>
> ·  Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page using Template:Approved
> feature link
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
>
> ·  Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 15:29, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> As per yesterday's note, I would like to make the following tweek to the
> tag pair as per the suggestion from Kovposch for the final write-up.
>
>
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
>
>
> instead of :
>
>
>
> drinking_water:refill=yes/drinking_water:refill=no
>
> drinking_water:refill_scheme=scheme-name1;scheme-name2;scheme-name3;
>
>
>
> Does anyone believe another round of voting is necessary for this small
> change ?  I don't mind.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:33, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Again,
>
>
>
> In addition to the previous email regarding voting outcome, I think it is
> worth discussing the suggestion of  Kovposch to make refill a namespace and
> use the word network.
>
>
>
> This would change the second tag of the tag pair to
>
> drinking_water:refill:network=network-name1;network-name2;network-name3;
>
>
>
>
> Does anyone have an opinion on this? I personally prefer this namespace
> convention because of I find it more generic and I find the word "network"
> clearer than "scheme".
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 09:27, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> The proposal for tagging bars, restaurants, cafés, kiosks, which refill
> water bottles for free as part of a refill scheme or as an independent
> passes with 13 positive votes and three abstentions.  Please note, that to
> be tagged drinking_water:refill = yes, it is imperative that a sign is
> evident so that the tag is verifiable.
>
>
>
> The tag that has been voted positively takes into account the clear
> preference for delimiting individual scheme names with semicolons - which
> is common with other tags.
>
>
>
> ·         drinking_water:refill
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1>
> =yes
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dyes&action=edit&redlink=1>
> /drinking_water:refill
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill&action=edit&redlink=1>
> =no
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill%3Dno&action=edit&redlink=1>
>
> ·         drinking_water:refill_scheme
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:drinking_water:refill_scheme&action=edit&redlink=1>
> =scheme-name
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1>
> 1; scheme-name
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:drinking_water:refill_scheme%3Dscheme-name&action=edit&redlink=1>
> 2;scheme-name3;
>
>
>
> Can someone please guide me on next steps ?
>
>
>
> ·         Create the permanent feature description page:
>
> ·         A new page for the feature should be created and the relevant
> map features template
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Features_template> (depending
> on whether it is a key, a value, or a relation) should be applied. Follow
> the standard set by the Key:highway
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway> key and its values.
>
> ·         Add a link back to the proposal by using the *statuslink* parameter
> of the feature template.
>
> ·         Add a link to the permanent feature page in the proposal page
> using Template:Approved feature link
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Approved_feature_link>.
>
> ·         Archive the proposal using Template:Archived proposal
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Archived_proposal>.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 14:43, European Water Project <
> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Joseph,
>
>
>
> Understood.
>
>
>
> I will start a discussion on the proposal amendment/tweek after the vote
> finishes tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2020 at 13:23, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed?
>
> Make another proposal to discuss that particular tag.
>
> - Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On 2/17/20, European Water Project <europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Tomorrow is the last day of voting.  The proposal has positive support ..
> > 10 + and 2 Abs
> >
> > There are two comments which are worth noting :
> >
> > 1 . It seems there is a strong preference for semicolon delimited scheme
> > names as a preferred alternative to refill_scheme = multiple. Untess
> there
> > are voiced objections, I will amend the proposal after the final vote to
> > take this into consideration.
> >
> > 2. Kovposch
> > <
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=User:Kovposch&action=edit&redlink=1
> >
> > suggested
> > making refill a namespace and changing refill_scheme to refill:network.
> > Intutitvely, this suggestion seems to be a good one, because of its more
> > generic nature. I also prefer the word "network" to "scheme" ...
> >
> > For 2) What is the best way to proceed ? It wouldn't be right to just
> > change the tag to something people haven't actually voted on.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:47, European Water Project <
> > europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Martin,
> >>
> >> If it is clear that there is drinking water available for refill for
> >> everyone there is no need to be part of a scheme.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Stuart
> >>
> >> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 18:40, Martin Koppenhoefer
> >> <dieterdreist at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:58 Uhr schrieb European Water Project <
> >>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>> I think they do need a sign or it is impossible to objectively map
> >>>> whether a bar will refill a bottle of water for free for anyone (ie
> >>>> paying
> >>>> or non-paying customer).
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I think if they provide a water tap in the customer area with a
> >>> "drinking
> >>> water" sign, it is perfectly ok and does not need more explanation.
> >>> Like in the linked photo above:
> >>>
> https://www.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g187791-d1023845-i49797540-Palazzo_del_Freddo_Giovanni_Fassi-Rome_Lazio.html
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Martin
> >>>
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