[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v3

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Wed Mar 11 12:07:35 UTC 2020


> I notice that they also refer to adding bus=yes etc to platforms
representing bus stops, which was not part of the PTv2 proposal, but I guess
tries to deal with one of the issues that led people to prefer
highway=bus_stop.

Yes, that is a rather silly thing that has been added, since it was
noticed after the proposal that if you removed highway=bus_stop and
only had public_transport=platform, then you would have no way to know
it was a bus stop rather than a train platform.

So now some mappers advocate adding a second tag bus=yes, originally
only proposed for stop positions. But if the originally, more common
tag highway=bus_stop is already used, there is no need to add bus=yes.

- Joseph Eisenberg

On 3/11/20, Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> wrote:
> I get the impression that consensus and general adoption will not be
> reached during my lifetime.
>
> Good luck with it, I'm out!
>
> Vr gr Peter Elderson
>
>
> Op wo 11 mrt. 2020 om 12:13 schreef alan_gr <alangrant72 at gmail.com>:
>
>> John Doe wrote
>> > I don't understand why the critics of PTv2 seem to think stop positions
>> > are such a big deal - they are optional!
>>
>> My memory of starting to map bus stops a few years ago is that it wasn't
>> clear from the documentation that stop positions are optional. I
>> certainly
>> formed the impressions that they were required, and came to regret
>> spending
>> so much time mapping both stop positions and platforms. At that time I
>> think
>> the main reference for how to map using PTv2 was the proposal page
>> itself,
>> now archived at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=625726.
>> That doesn't indicate that stop_position is optional (see "the Schema in
>> short", where stop_area is explicitly described as optional, but
>> stop_position is not).
>>
>> It seems other wiki pages have since been edited to make this optionality
>> clearer. I notice that they also refer to adding bus=yes etc to platforms
>> representing bus stops, which was not part of the PTv2 proposal, but I
>> guess
>> tries to deal with one of the issues that led people to prefer
>> highway=bus_stop.
>>
>> Bringing this closer to the original topic ... if the proposal for PTv3
>> is
>> "PTv2 with some exceptions", is there a single coherent reference for
>> what
>> is meant by "PTv2"?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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