[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting – Refugee site location

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Thu Mar 12 02:33:06 UTC 2020


Voting is still open a few more days for place=refugee_site

But I am still concerned about this claim: "For long-term refugee site
that are no longer under operation of the UNHCR or another
organization (other NGO, government, etc.) it is possible to use
instead or also the tag place=town or place=village."

You cannot tag the same Openstreetmap database object with both
place=town and place=refugee_site - you would have to create 2
separate nodes.

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On 3/3/20, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> wrote:
> I do not believe the concerns and questions at the talk page have been
> adequately addressed
>
> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Refugee_Site_Location)
>
>  While I appreciate the idea of mapping locations related to refugees,
> I do not think the proposed definition and tags wil work.
>
> The description includes too many possibilities: "A refugee site is a
> place that hosts refugee and/or IDP population and that is under
> operation of the UNHCR or another organization (other NGO, government
> agency, etc.). A refugee site can be a temporary site or a long term
> site."
>
> This could include a single building which which is operated by a
> local church and hosts a single refugee family from another country
> for a month or two. It could also include a huge semi-permanent
> settlement with thousands of people, shops, businesses, permanent
> structures and so on, which is nominally operated by a government
> agency but which actually functions as a town for many years.
>
> The definition needs to be changed so that it is clear what qualifies
> and what does not.
>
> Also, another new tag "refugee_site:for" is proposed with values
> "refugee" or "IDP." The second value is bad because it's a rare
> acronym for "internally displaced persons", and neither value is
> defined. Apparently "refugree" might only be used for people who have
> crossed a national border?
>
> There is also mention of additional tags "operational_status" and
> "official_status=unofficial" which are undefined. The second,
> official_status, had a proposal but that one was quite different
> (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Official_status)
>
> And operational_status=* has no wiki page, and this proposal does not
> define it.
>
> For these reasons, the current version of the proposal should not be
> approved.
>
> I suggest improving the definition of the tags and making it very
> clear which new tags are being approved by the proposal.
>
> - Joseph Eisenberg
>
> On 3/2/20, Manon Viou <m_viou at cartong.org> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> The proposed feature for refugee site location was posted for comment on
>> January 30 th. During February we have received several valuable
>> comments.
>> Thank you for your feedbacks!
>>
>> Your participation allowed us to improve our proposal in order to map
>> refugee site location.
>>
>> We would like now to start the Request for Voting,
>>
>> Please find below the proposal which is being put to vote :
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Refugee_Site_Location#Tagging
>>
>> This ends on 2020-02-17
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Manon,
>>
>> [image: CartONG- Humanitarian mapping and information management]
>>
>> Manon Viou
>>
>> Coordinatrice projet Missing Maps
>>
>> [image: Email:] m_viou at cartong.org | [image: Skype:] manon.viou
>> [image: Phone:] +33 (0)4 79 26 28 82 | [image: Mobile:] +33 (0)7 83889839
>>
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>



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