[Tagging] Updating definition and description of place=square

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Tue Mar 24 01:01:48 UTC 2020


Martin,

What would you proposed as the description= (in the Infobox) for place=square?

What changes do you propose to the current text of the page to improve
the definition?

-- Joseph Eisenberg

On 3/24/20, Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com> wrote:
> Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Am Mo., 23. März 2020 um 18:47 Uhr schrieb Greg Troxel <gdt at lexort.com>:
>>
>>> We need it for en_US, too, because in the US, at least in New England,
>>> everybody knows what Square means and it is different from what this
>>> thread is discussing.
>>
>> Think about pre-60ies urbanism. And "new urbanism", for example.
>
> Sorry, too confusing!
>
>> Here are some examples in New England (I do not know them from visiting,
>> but they are obvious from looking at the map):
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/530038747
>
> not tagged as place=square.  not in New England!  (seriously, New York
> is not part of New England)
>
> Yes, uses Square in name and fits the eurodef.
>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/474864229
>
> does not use sqaure in the name and is not place=square.
>
> Not clear if it really functions as a eurodef-square.
>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/474864229 Union Square
>
> wrong link, but guessing you mean
> https://osm.org/go/Zct8XcGSc--?layers=N then that seems like maybe it
> fits and is named.
>
>> Also this could be a square:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/39.29345/-76.60253
>
> could be, but it could also just be a bit of grass.
>
>> (sorry no time for more examples now)
>
> That's fine, but the point is not that we have zero things in the US
> that meet the Euro definition of square.  It is that we have many things
> that have square in the name that do not, and therefore that inhabitants
> of the US, or at least New England, do not relate at all to the EURO
> definition of square.
>
> Here is the most well known thing named square in New England (six
> states):
>
>   https://osm.org/go/ZfI4p0cT9--
>
> and note the green area to the NE is not part of Harvard Square - it is
> "Harvard Yard", which is a thing near Harvard Square.
>
>
> Here's another example of someting with Square in the name that is not a
> place=square
>
> https://osm.org/go/ZfI6Neyh0--
>
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