[Tagging] Is there any tagging scheme for carillons already?

Paul Allen pla16021 at gmail.com
Wed May 6 17:52:56 UTC 2020


On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 14:47, <Lukas-458 at web.de> wrote:

>
> Okay, I agree with that. So maybe we have to differentiate there. In
> Germany, Wuppertal, we have this one:
>

> It's inside a building or rather covered by it, but it's function is like
> a tourism=attraction, and for me there is no tower really, so I came on the
> attraction=*-key.
>

Attraction is about function.  If it operates as an attraction, it's an
attraction.
If it never plays, it's effectively a sculpture.


> For those in bell towers of churches man_made=tower or man_made=bell_tower
> might be appropiate, but actually these tags are describing only the tower
> and it's type/building-type, not the carillon itself.
>

I'm not sure we need to tag the carillon.  The ones in churches I've
encountered or read about aren't operated as attractions.  The bells aren't
visible, the mechanisms aren't visible, the operator isn't visible and
they're
not operated frequently.  One church installed a carillon (I've a vague
memory it wasn't a full set of 23 bells) simply because it was having
trouble getting enough bell-ringers.  So it was used at weddings, maybe
special events, maybe even one of the bells was used as an hourly
chime.  Not an attraction.

I don't think we need to tag the fact that a carillon is in a church bell
tower,
or how many bells it has.  We distinguish between a bell tower and a clock
tower because they are visibly very different and constitute landmarks .
Other than that, we don't need to know what is inside.  Maybe, one day, when
we've run out of other important features to map, we could consider
micromapping carillons.  For now I'd say use the description of the bell
tower
to indicate there is a carillon.  If somebody came up with a proposal
to micromap carillons right now I wouldn't oppose it but I can live without
it,
the same way I can live without a way of tagging the motive power for
the clock in a clock tower or the number of bells in a bell tower - the
description works (but not for somebody wanting to find out how
many churches in England have carillons).

However, looking into this made me realize we don't have a way of
dealng with spires.  I think we probably need it, because spires
can be very distinctive landmarks.  For example, this one
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Crooked_Spire.jpg
which is visible from a long distance:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Chestefield.jpg
(if that photo was taken where it claims to have been
taken, the church is about 3 miles away).  And that
particular spire poses another tagging/rendering problem because the
spire sits atop a tower which is both a clock tower and a bell tower.

-- 
Paul
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