[Tagging] relations & paths

brad bradhaack at fastmail.com
Wed May 13 02:37:28 UTC 2020


OK, but it seems redundant to me.   A trail/path get tagged as a path.  
There's a trailhead and a sign, it gets a tagged with a name.   Why does 
it need to be a route also?

On 5/12/20 11:43 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 1:03 PM Peter Elderson <pelderson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My view is that a route should have an indication on the ground. A sign, a trailhead, something. No verifiable indication whatsoever, then it's not a route.
>>
>> The length or the number of ways in the route does not make a difference to me.
> That's indeed the meaning of 'waymarked' in Waymarked Trails.  If a
> trail has a distinguishable waymark (signage, blaze, ducks,
> guideposts, whatever is used in a given locale) it gets a relation. No
> waymark, it doesn't. Length has nothing to do with it.
>
> I'll bend the rules slightly for named routes that are listed in
> multiple guidebooks, because otherwise some major trails would be
> lost. The Benton MacKaye Trail is not waymarked in certain wilderness
> areas, but is described in numerous guides, named, and maintained to
> the extent of occasionally cutting brush, clearing blowdown, and
> repairing water bars on the treadway. In general, wilderness trails,
> even if nominally waymarked, require good navigational skills, since
> trail visibility may be very poor indeed. The more remote trails also
> don't have a lot of vegetation control or get a lot of traffic. I've
> occasionally gone an entire day without meeting another party -
> although that was often 20-30 km from anywhere you can park a car,
> which filters out a lot of hikers.
>
> In the US, walking and MTB trails are likely to have only a splash of
> paint on trees at intervals.  The blue-green paint blazes seen in
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/14018094576 are pretty typical.
> The trails that they mark range in length from a few hundred metres
> (short access trails leading to parking lots, campsites, views,
> whatever) to a few thousand km (the National Scenic Trails). In remote
> areas, trails might go a few hundred metres between even paint blazes;
> they don't have a lot of reassurance markings. More popular trails, or
> ones nearer the 'front country' are likely to have marks frequent
> enough that you're always in sight of one.
>




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